The Monster Toned Coin Game Thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Jul 15, 2020.

  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I was going to say 67. It is an amazing coin.
     
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  3. robec

    robec Junior Member

    5.5 on Sy’s. I’ve seen some of his 6’s.
     
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  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Yep, it has been in both a 2x2 or a flip for about 40 years, and in little paper coin envelope for about 10 years before that, I believe. My Father in Law purchased it raw and circulated.
     
  5. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    So, 24 hours have passed and no one else has posted a coin, so I'll post another one. This also was sold in the last month...

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  6. robec

    robec Junior Member

    The reverse toning is good for a 5.3, but the obverse brings it down to a net 5 for me. Not quite as nice as the blue reverse 1886.
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @Skyman usually I'll call it and tag the next person; this way I have a chance to update the summary and the person next in line knows it is their turn. If someone wants to go ahead and post because things are slowing down, that is fine too but I'd appreciate it if that person could also update the summary in the post before they post the next coin.

    Edit:
    I have another idea too; are people ok with scrapping the summary results? That way whenever 24 hours passes, the next person can post and not have to worry about the previous round being called. This will keep things moving and it won't rely on me having to be there every day to update things.
     
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  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    To me this Morgan is fairly close to the previous one and I like it just as much....so 5.4

    Note: all coins posted since my last summary are still in play and I will update the summary at a later point.
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    5.5 I think it is another beautiful Morgan. Had that amazing toning been on the obverse, it easily would have been a 6. Great coin in every respect. Like the peripheral toning on the obverse as well.
     
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  10. Skyman

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  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

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  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Ok, 24 hours elapsed. Here is one of my PCGS Registry Coins from my British Commonwealth showcase of toned coins. It is a PCGS MS 65. In this case the coin looks exactly like the TrueView. It is an accurate, non beautified picture:

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  13. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    It has nearly everything. I have one comment, if the obverse colors were the other way, red on top, it would be even more pleasing to the eye, as the finer details of the hair and the tiara would be more visible.
    Still giving it 5.8 though. Wonderful piece
     
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  14. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    FROM THE IMAGE, the Cook Islands piece looks AT to me. In that case I'd give it a no grade.
     
  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The Cook Islands example looks questionable to me but I still like the look.
    I'm at 4.0
     
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    PCGS disagrees with you. Forget me from this thread. Bye!
     
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  17. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    And? It is a photo. The piece isn't in hand, and even then, AT is debatable with certain colors and neon-like appearance. Opinions are opinions. No need to exit from a thread.
     
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  18. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    IMO when PCGS and NGC first started grading 35 years ago, and then for a good chunk of time afterwards, they tried to weed out AT. Since then, except for the most egregious AT coins, they seem to have cycled through (several times) slabbing IMO AT coins and then cracking down on the exact same coins/looks. Go to any major coin show, and there are PLENTY of AT coins in PCGS/NGC plastic. I no more trust PCGS/NGC "acceptance" of toning as proof that the coin is NT than I do when I hear a used car salesman say that the used car has no problems.

    Further, if you post a coin to a thread that asks other people to grade a coin, don't you want an honest opinion?
     
  19. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I agree, in general, with your comments.

    the TPG propensity to grade Toned pieces, is simply an extension of making a market, based on the eye appeal market and Registry and pretty colors collector. Nothing wrong with that, BTW.

    The TPGS and 4PGs do not want to become involved in an imbroglio call, on all but....as you state....the obviously egregious pieces, and even then, the legal out is the piece is questionable. The TPGs have various definitions that are used, to appease the submitter...sort of a don't go away mad, but go away....thing.

    I don't know why your opinion should cause a collector to be miffed. It is not like you are stating definitively that the piece is garbage.
     
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  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I don’t need this crap. All people do here is argue, and pull one upsmanship. Like you’re more of an expert than PCGS about toning? Forget this constant tit-for-tat stuff. Maybe some of you like it, but it is no longer for me. Good luck, and good health to you all.
     
  21. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    Another recent sale...

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