1853 Flying Eagle Cent?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by John Underhill, Sep 13, 2021.

  1. John Underhill

    John Underhill New Member

    Hello everyone. This is my first post here but I have a feeling there'll be many more. I have no experience at all with coin collecting but I'm cleaning out my father's house and, apparently, my grandmother was a bit of a collector. I'm just starting to sort through the many jars and sacks of old and really interesting coins she stored away long ago. I've just been taking a few coins at a time and Googling them to get a rough idea of what the heck is a half-dime, for example, or a three-cent-nickel, or a war-token coin; fascinating...

    Anyway, today's question is about a coin I just found that I can't seem to identify by Googling. I'm sure someone here will be able to quickly solve my mystery. From the flying eagle on one side and the words "one cent" on the other it seems obvious that it's a "flying eagle cent". My problem though is that, from all I can find these were only made from 1856 to 1858. The one I have seems to clearly be dated 1853. Can someone help me figure out what this coin is? I'm sure it's probably something common that I just don't know how to look up.
    I don't have a great macro-camera but I took a photo of the date through my loupe and photos of each side with my phone.
    Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks,
    John
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Yes you are correct it seems to be a very old counterfeit I like it.
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hello and Welcome to Coin Talk ! That's odd to say the least . :confused: .
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's a damaged 8.
     
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  6. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Either a counterfeit or 1858 has been altered to look like 1853.
     
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  7. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    That makes scents
     
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  8. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Thats what I thought but if you look the top half is smaller than the bottom it can't be an 8 thats definitely a 3 or at least what I see.
     
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  9. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    What ever it is I like it.
     
  10. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    It looks like a gouge where part of the '8' has been removed. Its has a pronounced horizontal line at the top of the gouge.
     
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  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Compare it to that 8 on an 1858. Photoshop-out that missing area and you got this, an 1853.
     
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  12. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I get now(mental brain breakdown)being on CT and at school doing work doest mix:wacky::wacky:I gotta get back.
     
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  13. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    The old cent does appear to be very skillfully manipulated. I will offer this though.... Copper is a very soft metal and I have seen all sorts of very unusual aberrations posted here that were simply the result of the copper coin being being struck by something over the course of its life.
     
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  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Give it everything you got and it will pay off one day. Listen to me. I got horse sense. :)
     
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  15. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    You can see where the 8 was either damaged or altered.
     
  16. John Wright

    John Wright Well-Known Member

    Fascinating coin! Good job of altering an 1858 to make 1853.
     
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  17. UncleScroge

    UncleScroge Well-Known Member

    Just think, if it really was an 1853!
     
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  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The look of the first 8 is very similar to the look of the 3. It was an 8 that was altered to look like a 3. You can even see a stem on the top left of the 3 facing to the right. It even appears to be the large letter variety.

    Welcome to CT.
     
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  19. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    The font used in the 19th century most of the time had the top of an 8 smaller than the bottom.
     
  20. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    So do I!
     
  21. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Oh well, good conversation piece. Seal it, keep it, show it. It is a interesting fake, thanks for sharing.
     
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