Featured My 20 years coins collection alone with 3500oz silver bars were stolen.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Kevin wu, Aug 30, 2021.

  1. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I realize what has occurred are bad actors and what happened; but do you live in a neighborhood that has a "Neighborhood watch" group? If not maybe the police could help everyone form one. They tend to take any calls from a group serious as if they don't , the watch might should up at the city council demanding to know why. Too many people just don't want to get up from the easy chair and see what is going on.

    If any jeweler closes shop ask about their safe, you may get a deal. Jim
     
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  3. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    This gets so sickening that it is difficult to post anything rational about this. The fact is that the police response is inadequate. The follow up will likely be worst. There will be a large round of blaming the victim. And the Numismatic market will, in all likelihood, readily absorb these stolen coins in short order in a shroud of anonymous sales.
     
  4. Kevin wu

    Kevin wu Well-Known Member

    I say at first post already , my neighbor call 911 already when he saw three strange people went to my backyard , but operator didn't send any police officers to check it out .
     
  5. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    You seriously just don't get the job of the police.

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  6. HAB Peace 28 2.0

    HAB Peace 28 2.0 The spiders are as big as the door

    Wow.. Just wow.
     
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  7. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    Coin theft is a major way that coins change hands, and it has been this way for generations now. It will continue until the industry makes a determined effort to put an end to it. That requires a change in attitudes and a massive change in priorities.
     
  8. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    That just protects and gives them a safe harbor from being arrested under fencing laws.
     
  9. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    It is a major plus that they need to report it to the cops. It is a fantasy to think that deters anything. The mechanism, at least, is theoretically in place. It doesn't cover, fwiw, coin dealers. It also doesn't help if the police are too busy to do a thorough investigation... and saying that will now cause an avalanche of Pro-Police defenders who think it is a crime to point out that the cops aren't effective at doing their appointed job in these cases.

    This case, though, has a huge advantage that they discovered the theft right away. So that is an advantage.
     
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  10. rooksmith

    rooksmith New Member

    So sorry to hear anbout that. Its like my worst nightmare come true. And your collection looks very valuable. There should be a registry for STOLEN coins that dealers can check before buying from suspicious customers. I would talk to every coin dealer in the area - and send an email to the ones that are within 300 miles. Also notify all the police departments. Very often theives store them close to their own home, and eventually get caught burglarizing another guy. Any self respecting police detective will get warrants to search the places of residence, and any storage (including public storage) nearby.

    As a footnote, make a spreadsheet or document to share everything including the coin grading companies serial numbers. You can theoretically share such a document publicly, but try not to tell anyone your real name address and phone number to avoid scam artists and more thieves. I like to use google docs https://www.google.com/docs/about/ because I know how their web doc shares work.

    I once tried to recover a stolen bicycle this way. I sent emails to every bike shop in my area. posted a photo with a link to a google docs photo of it. I also used a temporary phone number so people could leave voice mail messages about it (google voice works for that: https://voice.google.com) If the stolen item is very unique, the guys in the shop will remember it and probably be able to give a good description.
     
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  11. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    FWIW - I tried this and it gets really tedeous, really quick. It is very hard, unless you are running a business, to get an accurate ledger with enough detail, like images, to keep track of your coins.
     
  12. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    I wish you luck getting these guys and your items returned. I'll keep my eye out if they happen to winter in South Florida. It's about all I can do from here.
     
  13. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    Two words: Inside job. They knew you had it, the only question is how they found out about it. Could even be someone you bought a coin from on line at some time in the past. Point is, they knew you had it before the heist took place.
     
  14. RD302

    RD302 Member

    With $200,000 stolen from your house do you have a security system? And I don’t mean cameras.
     
  15. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    Obviously no one was home at the time, so it most likely wouldn't have made a difference unless your referring to dog(s). If so, not everyone can or wants to deal with everything else related to having dog(s).
     
  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    l agree.. Kevin, did you share your collection with anyone you know from the neighborhood or at work?
    Did they steal anything else?
     
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  17. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    I'd also look at all angles, not just the obvious. Example: in the past did you have a coin that you bought not show up at your door? As in package thieves took it? I could see a package thieve taking a package off a door step and finding an expensive coin inside, indicating there is probably more inside the home.

    Do you have insurance on the collection? If so, check the insurance company to see if there is other clients of the company that have recently had their collections stolen. Meaning, a low level employee at the insurance company has access to client addresses and information on specific valuables insured.
     
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  18. RD302

    RD302 Member

    You have a couple of 30 watts sirens going off in your house hooked up to your alarm system and no one will stick around. You can’t even think straight with that happening and all the attention it’s going to bring.
     
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  19. Kevin wu

    Kevin wu Well-Known Member

    Nah , this not inside job's , I dont share anything with my neighborhood or anyone , all my collection bought from online Ebay or HA . And those suspects hit few houses near my house already . And they were targeting my neighbor house frist , but they saw my neighbor was home so they change targets my house .
     
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  20. Kevin wu

    Kevin wu Well-Known Member

    my shipping address and living address are different , and I don't have any insurance services . Not inside job's.
     
  21. Kevin wu

    Kevin wu Well-Known Member

    They took my small safe , inside safe has 3500oz silver bars , about 30 + rare coins + 15 piece rare paper Chinese money, and some jewelry and one gold quartz coin + my kids and myself passport, and 3 social security card . And they leave the big safe behind , but I can't tell you what inside bigger safe , those people might come back for bigger safe sometimes , I am waiting for them come back.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2021
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