Toned Peace Dollars...like this one.

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  1. KeyHunter

    KeyHunter Active Member

    Hello all. I'm curious to hear opinions re this toned Peace Dollar. The several raw dates I own have natural dull grey original surfaces and uncleaned. I see a LOT of dollars that have obviously been cleaned or graded w/this designation. This particular coin is graded AU58 with minimal bag marks, the fields look nice and I detect natural luster remaining. .the reverse has SOME toning but not as pronounced.The mint mark is sharp and defined. toned peace2a.JPG MY eye is preferring a natural untouched surface even WITH some toning vs something that has been a physically altered, cleaned just for a "blast white" descriptor. What say you...? peace toning1a.JPG
     
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  3. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    I'm personally not a fan of this type of...what I term as, "splotchy"...toning, but to each their own...everyone has different preferences. I prefer a light-moderate amount of more gentle/blended toning of champagne-golden colors, and certain similar/amber rim toning. I can't really detect wear by the photos here...reason for the 58...but luster is certainly evident and looks like a decent coin to me.
     
  4. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    The toning isn't optimal. But I wouldn't turn up my nose at this coin. I'll generally choose the coin with some color over a blast white one, and obviously peace dollars with truly great toning are few and far between.
     
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It's a nice AU, there is some nice luster remaining on the coin. It sure looks like it has been dipped in the past, that though is immaterial. Most all silver dollars have been preserved in the past.
     
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Because of the way they tone, Peace dollars are one type that I usually prefer white.

    This one is not bad, however. The toning is neutral, to my eye. I'd not call that beautiful, nor ugly, either. And it's better than a dull, overdipped coin.

    All in all, a perfectly respectable example.
     
  7. KeyHunter

    KeyHunter Active Member

    I did some Google searches for "toned Peace Dollars" and found two with a similar appearance on past sales/auctions/forums...the toning was described by sellers as album-toned. I spent a lot of time examining numerous specimens and, yes...dipped, cleaned (with rub scratches) and a gazillion scuffs, nicks and bag marks were aplenty. At least the toning is even across the obverse as not to be distracting or overly splotchy (to me) as Mac put it; this coin would be a good companion to my 1921 and 1928 Peace Dollar key date mini-set. I'd find BIGGER distraction a slabbed specimen that stated (obviously) "cleaned", opting for something that appears to have aged naturally. Thanks for chiming in guys...I love hearing different viewpoint on this topic. BTW, are you the LM that collects "holed" coins?
     
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  8. Robert Palatin

    Robert Palatin New Member

    I have a beautiful gold toned peace dollar bright blazing yellow, no brown
     
  9. Robert Palatin

    Robert Palatin New Member

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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Pretty. I've had some like that. I like subtle, pastel toning that's evenly distributed.

    Sold this one earlier this year. It had a bit of the same goldish tone to it.

    ("Champagne" toning is the term for this color, I believe.)

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  11. Robert Palatin

    Robert Palatin New Member

    Pretty nice coin. I want to find a ms 65-66 coin that looks like my 64 with similar bright yellow gold close to or with 100% toning through the whole coin
     
  12. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I think Peace Dollars look better with a bit of toning. This year some of mine have developed a bit of color
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  13. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    All the coins posted here have the natural toning of a Peace dollar. All of them have also been cleaned at least once. Unfortunately based on my experience with this series the OP’s coin is going to advance into an ugly (IMO) splotchy toning pattern. If you don’t wait too long a quick dunk in coin dip will remove it without damage but the result will be a blast white coin. Please don’t wait for the next step - black toning which is permanent, and irreversible damage. IMO.
     
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  14. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Morgan's, Peace, and their commemoratives are all keepers in my opinion. Yours is no exception, natural toning, good eye appeal, great looking coin. Thanks for sharing it.
     
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    To me that coin is a quick dipper. Meaning it need a quick dip and a long bath. I don’t like that type of toning.
     
  16. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the hobby will swing back to accepting dipped, cleaned coins, as they did in the past? Some toning I find acceptable, but when it covers marks, scratches, wear, etc. it is no longer acceptable. Just my thought on toning.
     
  17. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coin and toning. I see this type of toning a lot on Franklins from mint sets. I find it attractive. I like other toning as well, such as what Mac McDonald referenced:

     
  18. KeyHunter

    KeyHunter Active Member

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    I did some research re coins toning/tarnishing in 3rd party grading slabs. Since these are not totally airtight against humidity or gas exchange I'm wondering if it would be better to store this vulnerable "active toning" coin in the square Quadrum Intercept snaptites I'm using for my proof and other vulnerable silver? I also JUST discovered Lighthouse has these nifty Intercept Shield protective boxes for slabs...therefore I don't have to un-slab the coin and use a 2x2 QI snaptight. 61iFsAiTARL._AC_SY355_.jpg
     
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  19. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I personally like this coin and it’s toning and would be thrilled to own a similar one. To keep my costs down I have been buying AU peace dollars and have some I really like. There is a few I want to upgrade and yesterday I accidentally won a 28s on a auction I already had . Well I forgot I had one .
     
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    There are many different levels of toning, most are considered neutral with respect to the grade and value of the coin. I have shown some examples below.

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    Then you have coins that have dramatic toning that drives the price to multiples of the price guide like this one.

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    Personally, my favorite of the bunch is the first 1922 with the dappled orange and grape patina. I loved that coin.
     
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