How could PCGS miss this artificial toning here

https://www.silverdollarco.net/blog...ce-between-artificially-naturally-toned-coins

 

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Are you being serious right now? You call me a fraud but now you want to play the offended game? Put your big boy pants on. Don't play with fire if you can't handle the burn.

 

You still haven't proven they are AT. You just give an opinion. I'll take a PCGS graders opinion over yours any day of the week.

 

Yes I am, and your wrong.

Yeah, that is dodging the facts and defending acts of fraud.

 

PCGS has already proven to be incapable of making this determination, especially when faced with a profession con-artist, like the one in this example. You are just justifying the fraud.

 

I actually think you are the real fraud. Sending a coin in twice and having it come back counterfeit twice. Then keep sending it back till you get lucky with a genuine grade. That's pretty fraudulent and you straight out admitted to it.

 

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Post your own opinions and not others. If I wanted to search Google I would.

 

@cplradar I'll ask again.

 

I don't think he can answer without posting someone else's opinion in a video.

 

Your premise is altered. You have judged with out looking at the evidence.
PCGS gave it a strait grade.

Instead of being woke, wake up. You have no proof, yet are acting like the prosecutor, judge, and jury.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

You are the judge and jury. Please tell us the law that backs your claim.
Actually what you are doing is slander.
Wake up!

I have been to many a brick and mortar coin shop after hearing horror stories.
Picked em clean, and was even called out for it, in two of them.

 

No - your just strung off on as tanget trying to justify the application of fraud by this ebay seller. /dev/null It doesn't look good for the coin collecting community in general but it is an education to anyone entering the hobby that there is not just dark corners of people perpetraining fraud within the community, but that they have vocal supports as well. It is nasty stuff.

 

Correct, it is not rocket science. This fellow is focused on a single large silver design, hording them and destroying them so he can turn over quick profits at the expense of pigeons. It is detailed in his ebay profile. He is a one man wrecking crew, or maybe he has a consortium? Who knows.

 

I'm sure you won't respond to this because then you'd have to defend your position with facts instead of "because I said so".

While any coin with toning could potentially be AT, if you know the coins you're looking at you can make a more informed conclusion.

Starting in 1990, South Africa minted their small denomination coins on copper-plated steel planchets. From 1990-1993, the coins were placed in a felt lined box. Later dates in a hard shell plastic case.

The 1990-1993 small denomination coins frequently exhibit toning. One of the hallmarks of this toning is an unusual amount of sea-green and vibrant blues and reds. While these coins pictured could have been helped just as any toned coin could have been, the colors they exhibit are not out of line with those frequently found.

We also know that PCGS pictures bring out every color on the coin including some that aren't there. I suspect these coins are less dramatic in person and have some skin on them. FYI, the first coin still exhibits traces of the felt case on the surfaces.

 

dozens of the same coin, with the same AT toning, over and a over with a dozens detail slabs is all the evidence an sane and normal person needs in order to know a scam artist when we see one. So there is no point wasted paragraphs to defend it in the hopes that, like in the Wizard of Oz, that reality should be ignored.

 

He also removed the condition from the listing (although he left it in the description). MORE dishonest behavior... trying to cover ones tracks.

 

Here pigeons
Buy them ALL
https://www.ebay.com/sch/Uruguay/162178/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ssn=mother_natures_showroom

 

Difficult to capture the design surface of these, uneven, bumpy surface and no rim, so this is what they look like, https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces39519.html
I have dozens of these all stored the same way, for the same time in the same place. Nearly all have toned the same way, with a couple of exceptions. Obv and rev of one and just the reverse of another. Seeing these two amongst all the others would lead you to think AT. Wrong, exceptional toning happens. So, like others have said, please describe your reasons why you discount the opinion of the TPG, and the OP coin. Please, without referencing the seller