PCGS sub has arrived - Guess the Grade (Part 3 of 5)

We continue along in my PCGS sub. This is part 3 of 5.

Please guess the original grade and the new grade (originally NGC and now PCGS). Are they the same or different?

Here I am including two photos (PCGS TrueView and the photos from a prior owner of the coin).

 

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Beautiful merc in thinking for both.It nearly got FSB by a thread but not quite,the grades didn't change MS67.

 

MS67 (NGC) to MS66+FS (PCGS). It could also be vice versa, but I am positive only PCGS called this one FS.

 

I tend to try and grade conservatively, so I will say PCGS is 63 and graded lower.
I like the ‘original’ pictures better, although there is a bit too much yellow.

 

MS-66 Both ways .

 

66 on both.

 

66 originally. Regrade at 67.

 

66 I like that toning.

 

Does Phil take photos before or after the grade is present? Huh. wonder what others think ?

 

Looks 67 to me. Sooo...assuming you thought it would upgrade, I'll guess 66 originally, then 67.

 

Wow...a beauty...will strictly guess same grade at 67. On the FB, FSB, whichever, if not by a thread it must be the middle band at far left...a tiny break (maybe). That said, will say FB/FSB.

 

@Mac McDonald . 11 times post ??

 

Didn't notice that it did this AGAIN...a glitch somewhere here/there...have seen with others so think with CT or along the cyber-way there...wish I could delete...will try editing the first and/or last one and see if that does anything. Thanks.

 

@Mac McDonald No problem. I figured it was a glitch but wasn't sure .

 

That's one beautiful-as* mercury dime--And the toning looks very real. I do think the reverse looks nicer than the obverse--maybe just the strike?

I'd like to ask the OP why he's sending off all of these NCG graded coins to be re-graded by PCGS? Altho I do think he did well with that Morgan $.......It's very expensive, & a lot of dues, to "submit" coins to PCGS. Unless one thinks the original grading was very wrong.

 

MS66 both

 

Although those coins are nicer, they're still toned and not my cup of tea.

 

Pretty looking merc. I'll go with 66 for both. The marks on the reverse keeps it from 67 (note: in another year this old fart will be a 67 regardless of the marks). The middle band keeps if from FSB.

 

67 then 66.

 

Last call before the reveal...

 

I sent most of these because I thought the grading costs would be justified if a few of the coins increased in grade or even stayed the same as the PCGS grade. The market tends to price PCGS coins higher. There is also the PCGS TrueView photo; I have criticized them in the past (and still think some can be too optimistic) but I also know that people pay more for coins with TrueView photos. There are also some buyers that won't buy a coin without a TrueView. I had one Morgan that I sold for $500 and the guy resold it for $200 more simply by sending the coin in for a TrueView (I knew the buyer and he told me that the picture was the reason he was willing to pay the $700 but passed when I was selling at $500).

A quick summary of the reasoning behind sending in the two coins revealed so far:
~Part 1: the coin had nice color and looked better than a 64; I was disappointed that it did not get the 65 I thought it could but adding the TrueView photo will most likely cover the grading costs (although I don't plan to sell this one; it's going into my collection).
~Part 2: the coin was NGC AT and I disagreed with that determination. PCGS agreed with me that the color was natural and gave the coin a 63. As an NGC AT, the market value was limited but in the new (more appropriate) grade (and holder), the coin would sell for more than my original cost plus PCGS grading fees.

 

PCGS says the following:
At what point in the process are the photographs taken?

Photography can take place at any point in the grading process but always before the coin is encapsulated to ensure absolute clarity in the photography process.

https://www.pcgs.com/trueview

 

Beautiful coin. I think I'm being conservative at 66.

 

Again some great guesses...this one went from MS 65 to MS 66:

 

Now the reasoning:
~Part 3: this coin is the one that probably made the least amount of sense to regrade. The luster is super flashy, the color is pleasing to the eye, and I thought there was a chance of it being a 67. However, a two point upgrade isn't something one can expect. This was more of an experiment and an add-in to round out my submission (I wanted to send five coins instead of four-it did slightly lower the average grading cost since some of the fees are fixed regardless if you send four or five coins).

 

I think you nailed it with the thought process that led to a 66 without full bands (yes the middle band is the culprit). This one had no obvious market grading (which I believe would have upped it to a 67).