Major Burglary . . .

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  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    A bulletin from NCIC about a major residential burglary . . . http://numismaticcrimes.org/2021/08/09/alert-major-burglary-million-dollar-loss-maui/

    Also, the list of lost coins and serial numbers follows . . . https://files.constantcontact.com/f0e00abc001/c4d15cba-a88c-45e9-9ad9-5f5cf31e7ac7.docx

    This theft took place in Hawaii, and it should be pretty easy to spot the sale of coins from the islands if they were fenced there. Even if they were broken out of their holders, it may not be a great stretch to identify groups of coins offered for sale that would at least be worth the police inquiring about.
     
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  3. Rushmore

    Rushmore Coin Addict

    Praying the thieves get caught quickly
     
    Rushmore, Aug 10, 2021
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  6. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    A partial listing of the stolen loot......

    700 Platinum Eagles various denominations graded MS69
    600 Gold Eagles various denominations graded MS69
    4,000 circ Morgan and Peace dollars

    That's one helluva hoard!!
     
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  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    sad, just sad.
     
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  8. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    The third party graders can be of IMMENSE help here if they freeze transactions of these numbers and put vendors on alert.
     
    cplradar, Aug 14, 2021
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  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It could be an insurance scam. That's not unheard of. It sets up or one at that price. Of course we weren't given any real details.
     
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  10. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    The community can be vigilant for the serial numbers, but there’s no such thing as a TPG freezing transactions of serially numbered coins.

    Also, more than likely every one of those coins has been removed from its holder. Mine had been when I suffered a smaller, but similar loss.
     
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  12. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I am not sold on this story, yet.
     
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  13. Dirtyfingers

    Dirtyfingers Active Member

    Severe drug epidemic (meth) on those islands, just saying.
     
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  14. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    Another reason to 1)not tell people about your coins. 2)keep valuable coins in a safety deposit box, with insurance. 3)If you must store your coins at home, be very smart about it.
     
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  15. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    but there should be. When someone comes with a coin on the hot list, even to remove it from the database, they should immediately report it and contact the owner and the police.
     
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  16. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    I'm not sure I follow your thinking. Can you give me an example?
     
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  17. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    Someone comes and cracks out a reported coin, and submits to the TPG the plastic to remove from the database. This happened to us.
     
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  18. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I don't believe any criminal would be stupid enough to do that.

    Are you telling me that someone stole your certified coin, broke it out of the holder, resubmitted it for another grade (same, or different service?), and sent the old tag back in for deletion of the old grade from the population?
     
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  19. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I don’t think they’d know that this is even an option and why would they do it…? Lol
     
    micbraun, Aug 15, 2021
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  20. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    Well they did. The cracked it out and asked NCG to deactivate the serial number.
     
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  21. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    It would also help if no coin with a value of $500 or more could be graded with out a reciept for proof of a valid transaction for its aquisition.
     
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