Peace Dollar toning question

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  1. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I was looking over my Peace dollars and when I got to 1922........
    These three are in identical 2x2's (same box, manufacturer) and when I put them away 1 1/2 years ago, they had quite a bit of luster. Now the 2 D's are unrecognisable from then, and the P is dull looking. Stored in same place, same conditions. I wish I had imaged them then. Has anyone else noticed if D's tone more. Would be interesting to see some examples of different MMs you may have that have toned differently.
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  3. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I think storage conditions have a greater affect than any particular Mint of origin. What grade do you assigned to these Dollars?
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It does look dull but the toning is nice. It was either the storage of the coin or the coin was exposed to something prior to your adding it to your collection.
     
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  5. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I wondered if all the mints prepared the planchets the same way or if the washing etc differed in any way. These 3 were stored together. Grading is something I am only now starting to learn, I have only been doing this for 20 months since I inherited Father-in-Law's collection.
     
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  6. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Father in law had them for over 40 years, so it must be something in my house.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Maybe the temperature.
     
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  8. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Undue Flatulence by company, neighbors, and baked bean casserole can cause this….over time. 40 years times 20 blasts a day equals 290,000 episodes. Lucky anything survived…
     
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  9. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    He lived here in Spain same town as us for the last 20 years, he bought the coins with him from Norway.
     
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  10. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Damn, and I thought it was the drains
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd agree. I believe you've answered your own question, perhaps not specifically, but definitely in a general sense. For as long as I have been participating on coin forums, and I have been for as long as there have been coin forums, I have tried to explain to people that literally everything matters and makes a difference when it comes to toning. And as you yourself can plainly see, it doesn't take long. Toning begins the moment a coin is minted. And, every time something changes, the toning changes - and that change begins as soon as the change occurs.

    And that comment, I'll say tongue in cheek comment, about flatulence - that's really not too far from the truth. I say that because what you cook and how you cook it - makes a difference, a big difference. So does everything about you, and everything in your home - and everything really does mean everything. This is true because it is the air, and everything in the air that causes toning, . And every kind of paint, every piece of furniture, floor covering, etc etc etc puts off gasses and those gasses are in the air.

    You'll never be able to pin it down as to precisely what it is, but that's because it's a combination of everything about you that does it, not just 1 thing.
     
  12. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    That's Doug...in the blue toga.

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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Vicious rumors - I wasn't there that day :p
     
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  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank



    Nope, he was busy trying to stab Caesar. It WAS March 15th, after all.
     
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Now Frankkkkkkk - I wasn't there that day either. I was out in the field redesigning the aqueduct :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    The two are toning nicely. The third may be sealed differently and is slow to react to the environment. The best reply came from Doug and others, good luck. Thanks for the pic's and post.
     
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  17. TonkawaBill

    TonkawaBill Well-Known Member

    Gold toning looks very nice
     
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Doug is not kidding. He is onto something. Some of my coins, stored on bookshelves, in one of my spare bedrooms have light, colorful toning that has developed over the last 5-6 years. Now, this bedroom is directly opposite the hall bathroom of my house. I never gave it a second thought, but we all know that lots of Methane gets passed in hall bathrooms.
     
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  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    The UN didn't take this issue in mind when they issued their report on Global Warming........... devil.gif
     
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  20. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    Storx cond heat, humidity.
     
  21. whopper64

    whopper64 Well-Known Member

    I agree that gases in the air plus humidity can affect coins more than one can imagine. I've found that by storing coins in 2x2 flips and a Dansco 7000 album with protective slip cover slow down the deterioration of silver and non-silver coins. For relatively few dollars, one can save coins worth hundreds or even thousands, plus the obvious sentimental value. Proper storage is everything.
     
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