I will try to post several pictures and see if you have an opinion on whether the coins are from the same reverse die. I see several differences, but a respected EACer does not. Now I will let you tell me the differences you see if you see differences so that I don't influence your objectivity. I don't know if you can enlarge the images by clicking on them, but I can. This is the subject coin followed by 4 examples of the S-224.
Thanks a million for this reference. I believe it has enabled me to post what I needed. If you have any other suggestions concerning my post, just let me know.
OK. Now I'll tell you what I see. Bottom of M slightly above bottom of E vs slightly low to even on S-224. Right stem shorter than S-224. Numerator high and leans left vs high and leaning right on S-224. Denominator evenly spaced 1 0 0 vs 1 00 on S-224. The above places the numerator above the middle right of the center 0 on the subject coin and above the center left of the center 0 on the S-224s. Left side of Fraction Bar ends just short of bend in ribbon verses just past bend in ribbon on the S-224. Incused bust below TES up to the O is apparent on the S-224s. I don't see it on the subject coin. These are my possible explanations: 1. I'm seeing something that isn't there. Wishtribution rather than attribution. 2. A different die. 3. A retooled die. 4. Unusual damage to the planchet. 5. Unusual corrosion or pitting of coin. 6. Intentional Retooling of coin. 7. Unusual damage or wear on coin. 8. Photographic lighting differences. Since only the subject coin and one of the reference coins do not have the cud, it is safe to say that any die retooling would have to have been done after the subject coin was struck and resulted in the standard S-224 strike. I have heard that every low grade copper looks unique, so how do we determine what causes the uniqueness?
I think it is a retooling. I think the die might have been leaning one way, and halfway through minting they retooled it, and so then the leaning appears to have shifted. I'm not an expert on dies, though.....this is just a hunch. Plus this coin looks like someone retrieved it from a wishing well.
My personal opinion is that what you are seeing on the reverse can be attributed to the swelling, corrosion and rim damage it has suffered over the long run. For example - from the picture I can see remains where the right stem probably extended father. The 100 versus 1 00 - look at the hit on the rim below it. While none of this is 100% conclusive I think I will stick with the S-224 reverse.
I suppose this should come as a relief to me since it is a coin in which I LOST to another bidder at the last moment. I was able to speak to the winning bidder and he is a new collector who has just gotten the copper bug. Thanks for those who have given me your thoughts.
