2021 Type 2 Silver Eagle Rim Damage

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  1. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    Received a Type 2 for my Silver Eagle album and noticed the damaged rim. Anyone else experience this? Is the Mint’s quality assurance program this bad?:mad: Or maybe this is a collectible error?:rolleyes:

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  3. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Assuming you're serious, that's the missing reed safety feature they all have. I though this info was well advertised.
     
  4. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    I did a search for Type 2 Rim and saw nothing. Thank you for the information.
     
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  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    You see the same thing on the US Mint site. They describe it.
     
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  6. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    I'm glad you posted it here @Gilbert. I would have seen this when mine arrived and thought the same thing - I didn't read beyond the fact that there was some sort of security feature on the ASE that I didn't pay attention to. :)
     
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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Well shut my mouth.......you opened OGP.........oh the sacrilege, the humanity. How could you? How dare you. How could you have otherwise discovered such a feature? The goobers are watching over us and protecting us from the unscrupulous and scurrilous Chinese, who bought off EBAY in hopes of fooling us mere mortal collectors. Crime, oh crime indeed......... devil.gif
     
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  8. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that edge treatment was someones bright idea to discourage counterfeiting. How? Don't ask me.
     
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  9. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Obviously no counterfeiters would have seen that missing reed. Gilbert has ruined all of that now.
     
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  10. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    I try.:smug:
     
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  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I saw one at a local dealer’s shop a couple of days ago. The “odd reed” is interesting, and I would not have known about it until the dealer pointed to it.
     
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  12. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Funny thing is, it's written up on the Mint sight as one of the new anti-counterfeit features, so EVERYONE *read counterfeiters* should know about it.
     
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  13. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    I was facetious, but now I'm vaguely curious if the Mint is actually relying on the possibility that counterfeiters would miss the reed security feature... :pompous:
     
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  14. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Maybe the missing reed is a long term plan. Maybe next years will be in different location. Counterfeiters would have to change equipment every year for it to be right and May get it wrong in the process of trying to duplicate.
     
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  15. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Or, just make the coin and take out the appropriate reed.
     
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  16. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    @micbraun
    I always open the capsule to take my photos. 2021-W PR TY 2 D.jpg
     
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  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I do too........sometimes. :)
     
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  19. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    @micbraun
    Sorry about that
     
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  20. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    That's extra work and may be easier said than done. Assuming you could get a machine to remove it in the right spot and be the right size without taking too much or too little, there would be noticeable machine marks. Would also have to get the depth perfectly right without leaving machining marks. Not saying it couldn't be done but would add a lot of work after the fact. It's a deterrent not a 100% preventive measure.
     
  21. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Hmm, true. And with the upsetting done in a separate step prior to the strike in a traditional process, I suppose it would be very difficult to make absolutely certain that the missing reed is directly below the date every single time. At the very least it would turn it into a manual process for a counterfeiter (drastically slowing down production) unless they've figured out some sort of mechanical process to automatically rotate the planchet prior to the strike.

    Now I'm kind of curious how the usmint does it...
     
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