Hadrian Denarius, VF ?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mammothtooth, Jul 19, 2021.

  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    @Mammothtooth --

    I think that's a coin that circulated a lot during the prosperous early-mid second century. It makes no difference whether it's "gF," "aVF" or "VF" -- those are distinctions that are more applicable to machine-made coins anyway. It's a collectable example and you definitely got a good deal on it.

    The fun part is learning when and why it was issued. There's usually more to a coin's story than meets the eye.
     
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  3. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    I wrote a pretty long post to you explaining that the low weight is likely due to the leaching of copper and base metals. Not likely to be clipping.

    Do you disagree? If so, why?
     
  4. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I know you did. I appreciate it.

    I think that was regarding my Septimius Severus denarius right?

    But since then I’ve learned more about the denarius and based on the high purity silver used and the total weight loss I just don’t think leeching is what happened here.

    Believe me I want too! If it’s leeching I can say it’s a natural thing rather than that it’s damaged by clipping.

    I get no benefit of any kind by declaring my coin clipped. I don’t want it to be clipped. I’d much prefer to have it not be clipped and leeching be the cause.


    But during Hadrian’s reign they didn’t have much copper in them in the first place.

    Another thing I noticed since then is that the way the rim of the coin follows the letters as close as possible without cutting through them seems to show that they knew what they were doing and tried hard to make it looked unclipped.
     
  5. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    No. I was replying to you about this Hadrian denarius.

    Hadrian's denarii were about 80% silver. That is a fair amount.
     
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  6. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Just curious what makes you think it’s leeching and not clipping?
     
  7. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    One more thing, leach and leech are not the same word.

     
  8. robanddebrob

    robanddebrob New Member

    Yes grades were from the days of lists! Photos are better but can be misleading, perhaps video is best
     
  9. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Thank you very much , I will try black background and less harsh light.
     
  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The photography might be making the coin look lighter and more "cleaned" than it actually is.

    Using American standards, I would say it is a VF. The Europeans are supposed to be more conservative.

    Here's my piece, which I grade as an AU.

    Hadrian Denarius All.jpg
     
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  11. Mammothtooth

    Mammothtooth Stand up Philosopher, Vodka Taster

    Thank you sir.
     
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