1795 Silver Dollar

Even I will say in such generality...and I don't like that this is happening with so many coins...that there's something about this coin that doesn't look right, all things considered.

 

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I had a man at work try to sell me one just like this one. Same date. He asked me what's it worth? I said " about 5 years in prison." in a half hearted reply. I think I made my point.

 

A poor casting attempt.

 

Nice analysis by Publius2. If the die markers are correct for a documented pair, that increases the chances of authenticity significantly. I really can't say if it's fake or not; pitting could be from corrosion and handling, the rim anomaly on the rev looks like an attempt to repair a dig or cut with solder, or something. Certainly worth sending to one of the top 4 services for authentication.

 

www.pcgs.com

 

FAKE

 

What say you about authenticity @Insider ?

I'm not gonna stick up for this seller, he does sell a lot of problem coins, but AFAIK he doesn't deliberately sell fakes, and he is not a novice. I would definitely get a professional opinion before I threw this one in the junk pile. Though I am skeptical of it.

 

I see several professional opinions posted already. They are correct.

 

In this case I recommend sending it to pcgs. If you send it to Anacs or icg and it comes back authentic there will be that one guy somewhere who will doubt their authentication. Send it straight to pcgs and nowhere else.

 

Hah! True, isn't it funny how some folks turn their noses up at anything that isn't in a PCGS slab, some while still claiming to buy the coin, not the slab. Both ANACS and ICG guarantee authenticity, personally as a collector I'm quite pleased with ICG for American coins. Tokens not so much, I don't think they always account for the overall quality of strikes in some series, and can be overly critical in grading same. Of course if resale is the goal, PCGS slabs command the highest premiums.

 

I didn't know that Romulans are grading coins now!

 

They are sneaky.

 

I highly doubt it.

Here is an authentic 1799 draped bust silver dollar.

Try and see if you can spot the differences. Remember to look very closely at everything and use a magnifying glass or loupe if you have one.

Oh and weigh and measure it!

 

I send all mine to PCGS. I also add gold shield to everything I send in. That gives it truview. Everything i buy is bought for its look. Even if it is details I will still send it in. I've already seen the arguments about ICG on other posts. People telling people to crack it out and send it to pcgs.

 

I see pits in the surface and chunks of metal. I think that it is a counterfeit.

Here is genuine example shown in the larger format to enhance the detail.

 

The images make this coin look C/F. It appears to be authenticated in a "Fly-by-night" TPGS slab. Unfortunately, in this case, there is no way to authenticate it for sure with the images provided.

 

That would definitely suck if it's fake. It's a nice coin.

 

You cannot tell anything by comparing a 1795 dollar to a 1799 dollar. All of the diagnostics are different because of how coins were made in those days with individually hand-stamped numbers, letters, and stars not to mention different punches used for different dies in the same year not to mention over multiple years. In order to actually compare one coin to another, you must first make sure that the dies are the same, which is what I did in my analysis, based upon date from Q. David Bowers' book on the early US dollars.

In addition, the 1799 draped bust dollar you posted has a Heraldic Eagle reverse whereas the 1795 dollar the OP posted is a Small Eagle reverse.

 

Agree. Go with the Klingons, you'll be glad you did!

 

Here are photos of a genuine example and the piece in the OP.