Philip 1 AE 28mm 8 Assaria Antioch - fake?

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  1. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I strongly suspect this one is a fake, but any views welcomed:
    Philip 1 8 Ass 1-side.JPG
    Measures about 29mm and weighs 13.9g.
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Agree with ACH, looks fine to me too.
     
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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Looks ok to me as well. These are pretty plentiful and affordable. In fact, I picked one up not that long ago:
    Phillip I.png
     
  6. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Well that is good news! It felt too flat and even to me.

    Also the closest match I could find on Wildwinds has Philip with a radiate crown, rather than laureate.
     
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I can't remember if I found the ID on wildwinds or on RPC...but here is what I have. The only difference I can see with your coin vs mine, is that yours does not have the star underneath Tyche:

    Philip I
    AE30
    Antioch, Syria
    Obverse: AYTOK K M IOYΛI ΦIΛIΠΠOC CEB, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: ANTIOXEΩN MHTΡO KOΛΩN Δ-E S-C, turreted and draped bust of Tyche right, ram leaping right above, star beneath
     
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  8. dougsmit

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    This is my Philip II. I do not pretend to be able to separate real from fake on poor (or good) photos of poor (or good) coins. It is often possible to say a coin is fake from even a poor photo but you may notice that the grading experts like NGC still ask you to send in the coin in person before they issues a certificate. There is a good reason! Do I see reason from the photo to doubt the coin? No. Should you take that as it being genuine. Double no!
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    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

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  11. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Thanks @Marsyas Mike - that is a very useful link. I enjoy tracking Roman coins down, but I find the Provincial ones, with the legends in Greek, much more difficult to decipher.
    I have another bag of Random ancient coins to assess later in the weekend. I just had a sneak preview and there looks to be some goodies in there!
     
  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I think the reason for this is that someone started with a worn coin with a very thick patina and then removed the patina from the raised area by harsh rubbing/scraping, thus exaggerating the flatness of the relief. If the coin were mine, I would accept it as genuine unless someone could prove otherwise.
     
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