How does this happen?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by u4ia, Jan 2, 2010.

  1. u4ia

    u4ia Member

    I know that all TPG's make mistakes, but come on, the damage is blatantly obvious here...

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    It's kind of hard to photograph through the slab. In hand it's even more obvious. How could this possibly have gotten past more than one grader?
     
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  3. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Maybe the damage happened after being slabbed?? Is the case damaged
    As well?? Its hard to tell??
     
  4. u4ia

    u4ia Member

    Nope, no damage at all to the slab.
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well tpg's are not perfect. Just another example of buy the coin and not the holder.
     
  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    It's hard to believe PCGS would make a mistake this blatant. I'm wondering if someone figured how to sucessfully tamper with the case to make it look like it was never tampered with?
     
  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Someone must took an early lunch on that one!
     
  8. cerdsalicious

    cerdsalicious BigShot

    from SGS i could see this but from PCGS?
    wow thats amazing
     
  9. frattlaw

    frattlaw Junior Member

    No one is perfect...
     
  10. malak1

    malak1 Junior Member

    As I've pointed out lots of times. it's all about the Benjamins for the TPGs. They really missed the boat here. Of course grading commemorative issues and bullion coins 69s & 70s when they should be that way anyway because of modern minting techniques is a travesty. CAVEAT EMPTOR!
     
  11. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    May have come in as part of a large lot; just not paying attention.

    I won't even mention what I perceive to be a fingerprint centered at 12 o'clock on the obverse.

    Oops. I mentioned it.
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Well, this is why they have their grade guarantee...because they make mistakes. You could send it in as damage and possibly get some money out of it if it's really worth it to you...although with this coin it's probably not.
     
  13. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    So were you the person who sent it in to be graded in the first place or did you buy it already graded? My point is why would someone send in a damaged coin to be graded? I believe the TPG's miss alot of stuff as far as errors but this would have been harder to miss for sure. :kewl:
     
  14. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    What difference does it make. It seems clear to me that the person who submitted it didn't notice the damage either at the time. It may have been the OP or perhaps the OP bought it later (and since they bought it, they may no have noticed the damage at the time either). I believe the PCGS guarantee protects the current owner of the coin whither they are the submitter or not.
     
  15. u4ia

    u4ia Member

    I bought the coin already slabbed.
    I'm curious about what PCGS would do with this coin. Would they reimburse me fair market value, or the diiference between the 69 grade and the damaged grade? Either way, not really worth it, what is this, maybe a $20 coin :)
     
  16. u4ia

    u4ia Member

    LOL, smooth :kewl:

    Actually, it's on the slab.
     
  17. u4ia

    u4ia Member

    Can anyone answer my previous question about what PCGS woud do if I called them on it? It's merely curiosity, as it's not really worth the effort and makes a nice conversation piece :)
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Possibly damaged between grading and slabbing? Like maybe the guy doing the encapsulating dropped it or dropped something on it.

    According to Ron Guth at the Central States Show this past year the PCGS grading guarantee DOES NOT apply to the original submitter.
     
  19. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Ron said that since the original submitter isn't out anything, since he didn't pay a higher price for it, if he resubmits it and it downgrades it was just an error the first time they graded it and they don't pay off in that case. (I find it questionable too but that was what he said the policy was.)
     
  21. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member


    Well I guess I can see that. So the op can have his neighbor or dog send it in?
     
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