SBA dollar- wide and narrow border?

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  1. dcure2002

    dcure2002 Old but not that old

    These old eyes are about gone I believe. Can anyone help to confirm that these coins represent both a wide border and narrow border? The middle and right coins in the picture are the same coin with different lighting. Working on my picture taking as well. Know these are not the greatest.
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  4. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    The left most coin is the wide boarder. The right most coin(s) is narrow border.
     
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  5. dcure2002

    dcure2002 Old but not that old

    @CoinCorgi Thanks, looked like it to me when checking the reference. Just looking for some confirmation from someone with better eyes.
     
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  6. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I can't tell anymore either.
     
  7. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    The first one looks Narrow and the 2nd a Wide .
     
  8. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Maybe it's my eyes also, but first looks like close date and second looks like far date.
     
  9. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    It would help to use consistent terminology...from @green18 's link...

    Narrow Border = Narrow Rim = Far Date
    Wide Border = Wide Rim = Near Date
     
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  10. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    I agree with the dog.
     
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  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Problem is near and far date are better descriptive terms because although the date wasn't moved, the difference is the on one the date is near the rim and on the other it is far from the rim. Referring to the width of the rim also can have problems because if the die isn't centered in the collar you can have "wide rim" coins with narrow rims, or "narrow rim" coins with wide rims. (I've seen both.) But the distance of the date to the rim doesn't change with die centering.

    I'm sure this is one reason many people have trouble with this variety. They focus on the width of the rim and not the distance of the date to the rim.
     
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  12. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    Easier to identify by looking at how close the date is to the rim, not the size of the rim itself! Plus, the wide rim was minted in Philadelphia not Denver. The middle and right coin look like a "D" mint mark! The SBA on the left is a wide rim!
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes it is only the P that matters with this variety. Wide rim near date is the good one.
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