1902 S Morgan grade

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  1. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    20210705_122714.jpg 20210705_122725.jpg 20210705_122714.jpg I'm not good at grading Morgan's so am looking for opinions on this 1902 S
    I call it XF but I'm probably off.
     
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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I think XF45 sounds fair.
    The cheek seems to have an odd amount of rub compared to the rest of the coin.
     
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  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It has a rough cheek, but it's also got a lot luster. The grade would be AU-55 if the Cheek doesn't bother you that much, or AU-53 if it does.
     
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  5. derkerlegand

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  6. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I think the wear is AU...but the surfaces/luster doesn't look right. It could just be the photo. But I wonder if this coin has been dipped to death.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    AU Details - Scratched
     
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  8. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Upon closer examination of this coin I see a problem on and around the N in United. There also appears to be some small raised bumps of metal. Counterfeit or damage? 20210705_150215.jpg
     
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Good catch!

    Winner, Winner! Sweet and Sour Chinese Chicken Dinner!

    In this case, it's all sour.

    It's really bad when you have to go into looking at every one of these things to see if it's a counterfeit.:android:
     
  10. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Er, er, I mean, it's a fake.
     
  11. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Glad it's not mine but sorry for my friend who
    It's from a large group of silver dollars that a friend of mine acquired
    Another fake in a small hoard of 30 Morgan and Peace dollars a friend acquired and asked me to grade them.
    Hate to tell him that some of them are bogus but at least they didn't cost him anyting.
     
  12. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Problems for me are: Rev. all letters have issues, bubbles @ N and field near wing; Obv. upper cheek, upper nose, eyebrow, forehead, leaves and flowers. Opinion: Fake.
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a coin that I would have bought.
     
  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Definitely counterfeit. Moral of the story—don’t even look at uncertified better date Morgans.
     
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  15. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Yep. Now days if you want to collect coins you must also educate yourself in counterfeit detection of coins as well as slabs.
     
  16. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Anyone remember when...?
     
  17. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    ...or Peace dols. like the previous 1921.
     
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  18. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    details, if it is real
     
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