Toning tricks?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by fretboard, Dec 21, 2009.

  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Anyone have any ideas on helping to speed up the toning process? I don't know if this works yet but I got some coins in a redwood cigar box. Any thoughts? I'm not interested in AT I just want to give mother nature a little shove. :D Anyone?
     
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  3. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Place a raw (silver) coin in a window sill and let the sun do all the work. But then why would you want to do this? "Silly rabbit tricks are for kids."
     
  4. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    I've got a 1 year old great niece with a new box of crayola's...
     
  5. krispy

    krispy krispy


    So that's where the wax comes from on those bank rolls I search! LOL!:rolling:
     
  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Nobody is going to answer your question. You may not consider giving mother nature a shove AT, but everyone else will. Those who know how but abhor AT coins and think they are a threat to the hobby are not going to tell you because they want to stop coin doctors, not create them. The coin doctors consider them trade secrets and won't divulge their secrets to anyone.

    I have a question for you. Why don't you purchase coins that are already toned instead of toning them yourself? I have only ever gotten two answers to this question and neither is good.
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Giving mother nature a shove is AT. No other way around it. I will not answer your question. Only after proving yourself worthy of the knowledge will it be given to you.
     
  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I do, most of my toned beauties are bought from others. I just think there's something to placing silver coins in a redwood box, that's all. I don't have any proof yet, but I plan on having proof in a few months.

    I'm not looking to AT at all. I've already heard the oven and potato and the freezer trick and the vaseline trick as well. Not interested. That said, I do believe that you can create a better toning environment than a simple coin flip. that's all :bow:
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    In that case, your best bet is to get a hold of some old Wayte Raymond holders and place the coins in them. Those holders were known for producing incredible toning.:thumb:
     
  10. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Interesting, I'll go to my coin show next month and keep my eyes open. If I can get ahold of those, it would be there. thx for the tip :D
     
  11. Grbose

    Grbose CoinSpace.com CEO

    I have an idea why not ask how to properly store a coin to prevent toning.
     
  12. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I was about to bring that up about Wayte Raymond holders. My question is if Wayte Raymond holders have something inherent in them that toins coins better than other holders then how is this not AT? Seems like anything truly natural would happen regardless of what we did/did not put the coin in.
     
  13. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Any toning, whether it be in an oven or a Wayte Raymond holder is mother nature. The way that coin reacts to whatever environment or chemical it's exposed to is science and not magic-ergo, mother nature.
     
  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The general argument is that storing coins in items that were specifically designed to store coins can't be considered AT despite the fact that it is known that the storage system results in toning. In other words, a Dansco album will also create toning on a coin over time, but nobody would ever consider placing a coin in a Dansco artificially toned. The same principle applies to the Wayte Raymond holder even though it has a reputation for generating more dramatic toning.
     
  15. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    The key is rate. From a chemical perspective, nothing is different between AT and NT. Coins that are toned quickly simply have a different look than coins that are toned slowly. With AT coins, the changes are more abrupt.

    Time = good.
     
  16. trogdor

    trogdor Junior Member

    I heard a while back that wrapping coins in taco bell napkins and then set in a window sill produced nicely toned coins. Can't say that I tried it myself. I thought it was probably bunk. I'm also not too keen on wrapping coins in a rough napkin. 10 years back I put some BU 70's cents in the oven with varied results. Some of them I still have - mostly as a lesson to myself not to be a moron next time :)

    Ben
     
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Now I have to post for Doug. He will say the key is intent. If the intent is to accelerate the toning rate, it is AT. The problem is, how does a grader determine intent?

    Sorry Doug, I waited long enough, you are late to the thread.
     
  18. fagaly

    fagaly Junior Member

    toning

    As far as the Wayte Raymond holders, could they have been made with a paper with a higher sulfur content?

    If you are trying to tone copper coins, put them in dirty socks (one coin/sock), It will take a couple of months, but it will do a very nice job. If you really want to know, gym socks work best, especially if you rotate them for the freshness:( you get after a good 40 minute run.
     
  19. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    I like oak bottom drawers for silver coins.

    Fagaly, You are killing me! Dirty socks? What haven't you tried?
     
  20. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Dirty socks, napkins, wooden drawers, vasoline, ovens, special holders...you guys are crazy!!
    And you all act like you hate AT coins but it looks like you have all messed with them to me...
    And this is probably just scratching the surface.
    lol
     
  21. trogdor

    trogdor Junior Member

    Very true. Ten years ago I committed every single error you could imagine when it comes to altering coins. Lately though, it takes a lot to tempt me to play around again. When I do think I've heard of a good method I take a look at my folder of "mistakes". That sets me straight every time.

    Never heard the dirty sock method before...um...wow.
     
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