A Significant $1 American Silver Dollar Error

My opinion, it's a bullion coin and as such there's many out there nobody is really looking at. Ive seen collar clashes, I've seen lesser clashes on 2017 Bullion SAE. also on a 2020, I have to assume, it's rare, but not "unique" in that it's the bullion version and probably many more out there in hiding.

It's nice, but who knows how many are out there really sitting in vaults or stacks, unopened monster boxes, never looked at waiting to be found? Mintage was 37,701,500 for 2016.

I'd assume that your's is this one that NGC posted an announcement about in 2018? or is yours #2 found?
https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/6608/mint-error-die-clash-2016-eagle/

 

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Good point on all the un opened monster boxes . I assume it’s still very rare for the amount of coins minted but not unique . I emailed ngc asking if they kept records of the clashed coins and they said no even know when you look up the verification on there site it says clashed dies . I was looking at my 2021

 

What would this error normally add to the cost when selling it?

 

Looks like NGC calls it a "Very Rare Mint Error" and not a variety. Does that change anybody's opinion?

 

No it changes nothing. Look a clash is an error. An error occurs in the minting process where a planchet doesn't get between the dies and the faces slam into each other and the operator doesn't catch it. It's absolutely an error.

However they can be varieties if it can be used to identify a die pair on a series that people care about die varieties on.

Lastly it's technically a die stage identifier and not an error or variety really. Like polishing lines or die cracks, it's an event during the life of the dies.

NGC can call it whatever they want. They also called coins first strikes, early releases, first releases but it doesn't mean they are actual first strikes, actually released early, or actually a first release, it just means the submitter got it in within the submission period to get the labels.

NGC isn't wrong in calling it an error though, but if it were a Morgan dollar or the 1955 bugs bunny Franklin half it would be a variety, and if it was a clash on a, I dunno a wheat cent I suppose, it would be a die stage or die event.

Gotta call it something and it's mostly how it's seen and if it has value as a variety or as a die stage or not, because if it doesn't it would just be an error in the minting process technically.

 

Nice find. Makes me want to check the tubes I haven't opened. Decisions!

 

I don’t think so

 

Damn right

 

Wrong

 

You members need to get together Cuz that’s an error. Not a variety. If it’s one that’s in the die (it’s self), variety. Act of God or mother’s nature or a mask falling into the coin operation must be an error. @JCro57 hi Buffalo

 

A variety is not the same as a die variety.

 

True, but they are still VARIETIES. A 1941/2 Mercury Dime, 1937-D 3-legged Buffalo 5 Cents, 1922(P) Lincoln Cent are die varieties. A 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter is a variety. None are errors.

 

WRONG!

 

These hold both categories, but it is a toss up in the community.
The event of the die clashing is an ERROR.
However some may choose to classify the error as a Variety.

 

Hey I was right for the first time. Strutting

 

Going out on a limb here!!! The 1982 cents small and large dates are die varieties. It’s my guess. But the 1982 bronze and zinc are not die varieties. This would be a monumental moment if I got this all right. Am I right?

 

Am I. Still guessing. Was I wrong about the 1982’s

 

Am I back to being confused again. Oh hell yes

 

Lets put it this way, @JCro57 silver dollar as a potential 1 of a kind, would still be considered an Error. If there were many produced and this error becomes popular and wanted by many in the numismatic community then it could be known as a popular variety.

Variety's are known to have more than 1 exact example. Usually 5 to 10 examples or more.
Errors are for the most part 1 off because it is nearly impossible for an error to repeat itself.
Clashes can be confusing because the details Are part of the dies, but at the same point they are not an original design feature.
They also can be removed, go figure.

 

Thanks