1955D LWC - Retained Lamination? (edit: pre-cud?)

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  1. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    I'm presuming this is a lamination - the edge crack looks too defined to be some sort of die break. Whatever it is, it looks like it's been there a while.

    How common are laminations on wheat pennies? I'm guessing common? I've seen a couple so far while I search through these rolls I bought.

    Thanks for any opinions

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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Some kind of baby cud,IDB?nice find.
     
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  4. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Oh, hmm. Ok. I was thinking that was just a lamination crack that had become worn down over time. So it might be some sort of idb eh?
     
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  5. Danomite

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  7. CygnusCC

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  9. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Different locations. Interesting coin. Flip worthy in my book.
     
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  10. Danomite

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  11. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Yep, I agree. I just (I think/hope?) followed all the rules required to submit this to cuds-on-coins. We'll see if it arrives. Thanks again for the site link.

    Edit: Nope, rejected. JC says in order to be a pre-cud the crack has to be rim to rim.
     
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  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Lamination perhaps, cud no. It's a keeper in my opinion.
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s not a cud. Looks like a die crack that could be the start of a lamination. Definitely a keeper.
     
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  14. Danomite

    Danomite What do you say uh-huh

    Is part this a scratch or is it crack?
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  15. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Huh, you know I didn't notice that before. I took a couple of closeups to that area and I think you're right - that is a crack.
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  16. Danomite

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  17. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Hmm, but this looks like it's a crack on the coin itself, instead of a raised area that would indicate a crack on the die, right? If it's a crack on the coin itself, that would add evidence for a retained lamination, I would think.
     
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  18. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Nice find. Thanks for the post.
     
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  19. Danomite

    Danomite What do you say uh-huh

    Here’s a great explanation of various types of laminations. Look particularly close at the lamination crack.
    http://www.error-ref.com/?s=Lamination+

    Also read all of the definition link for cuds that I posted in a previous post. Look at several years of listed pre cuds and compare them with your coin. Let us know what you come up with as a diagnosis and I’ll tell you what I think and why. Great learning experience for all.
     
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  20. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I think the second opinion is going to count.
     
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  21. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Ah, I agree. This has more hallmarks of a lamination crack than a retained lamination, I think.

    Ok, so here is my analysis. The Blue arrows are where the die crack occurred, the red arrows are the lamination cracks and the green arrow is simply wear from where the lamination has partially lifted and is becoming worn.

    I have also decided that drawing arrows with a mouse sucks. :)

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