GTG: 1880s Morgan Dollar

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Grade???

  1. MS 62

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  2. MS 63

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  3. MS 64

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. MS 65

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  5. MS 66

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  6. MS 67

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  7. MS 68

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. +

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%
  9. PL

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  10. DMPL

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
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  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Self-explanatory. Rather than just giving a grade, please explain your rationale for the grade.

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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    65 PL...clean fields and cheek, nice cameo look, die polish lines on the reverse (not scratches as some might think)...I slightly hesitated on PL but believe a different angle would confirm it
     
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I go with 63 PL

    although the rev is not very deep
     
  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    You are definitely in for a surprise. :). Don’t fixate on die markers, and think they are hits.
     
  6. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I'll say 66 DPML nice one.
     
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  7. Scott J

    Scott J Well-Known Member

    64+ DMPL hits below the eye keep it from 65+
     
  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I tilted the slab a bit.
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  9. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

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  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    You are definitely in the right direction. What else do you see? Don’t fixate looking for hits. Too many people count the hits, or look for hits that aren’t hits.
     
  11. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    It has a very frosty,mirror like appearance and surfaces are reflective almost like its a proof but it doesn't make it that far still amazing .
     
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  12. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    She's a little bruised up in the profile but not cut anywhere I can see. MS65 provided they didn't hold her from gem for the die state.
     
  14. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I'm going out on the grading limb here and say MS65+. The reverse misses the PL reflectivity standard because of the extensive die polish lines...
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Die polish lines do not impair reflectivity. In fact, they indicate a highly polished planchet, due to polish transfer from the die.
     
  16. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

  17. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't surprise me but there's a huge price gap.
     
  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Clue: Those are not hits on the cheek. Look carefully. They are die polish artifacts, and frost breaks. There are no bagmarks in the facial area.

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  19. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Ok, more clues, as I treat these as a learning experience. Throw out the guesses under 65. They are not in the ballpark. Focus on the 65-67 range, as the coin is gem grade. Also, is it PL or DMPL? Why yes or no?
     
  21. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    Wow nice one I’m going to say MS-65 DMPL amazing details . Gorgeous coin heavy die polishing before this girl was minted I guess
     
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