Kos tetradrachm - find the differences

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by pprp, May 27, 2021.

  1. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    Here's a recreational spot the difference game

    Auctioned yesterday:

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    For sale today:

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  3. El Cazador

    El Cazador Well-Known Member

    @pprp were you able to acquire a second one from Pars?
    I didn’t bid on the first one due to scratches on the uppper center of the coin as well as around the face on the obverse.

    also, where can i get a second one?
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2021
  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    surely those are one in the same coin
     
  5. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    It's the same coin, a dealer got it from the auction and is now reselling. He sure has some photography skills
     
  6. El Cazador

    El Cazador Well-Known Member

    Yeah, can’t see all these scratches on picture #2, do you mind if i pm you to ask for a seller’s name?
     
  7. El Cazador

    El Cazador Well-Known Member

    @pprp also, it is impossible for the buyer to get a hold of the coin - the auction is still in progress and nothing has been invoiced or shipped? So how is it feasible?
     
  8. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    If you attend the sale in person there are some auctioneers who let you pay on the spot and leave with the coins...
     
  9. Dwarf

    Dwarf Active Member

    And then run to the Netherlands :chicken:
     
  10. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    That's a lightning fast turnaround, even if they had picked it up. Maybe they consigned it, it didn't sell, and now they're reusing their previously taken pictures?
     
  11. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    [Sorry, I accidentally posted something in the wrong thread.]
     
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  12. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    Dealer and auctioneer based in the same country. I am aware of several US dealers who put coins for sale the same day they get something from CNG or Davidson's hoping to resell before the coins get listed in the search engines. But the issue in this case is that the dealer's photo is concealing defects visible in the auction photo.
     
  13. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Some times those weak areas of a coin just get overexposed, don’t they. :)
     
  14. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    There is nothing wrong with flipping a coin if you think it is under-priced.

    I agree with your concerns about the photo, though. There are clearly a lot of scratches on the top of the head and on the cheek in the top photo. All the other issues are still visible except these scratches. It looks like they have been deliberately obscured through photo-processing software. If this is the case, then I consider this dishonest.
     
  15. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Back in 2015 I decided to attend the Numismata in Frankfurt, I noticed there was an auction in Munich. I thought that some of the coins looked interesting and so I decided to attend. The coins I was interested in were all from Magna Graecia and thus were among the first lots offered. I bid on and won a number of the coins. I was done within the first hour of the auction. I went over to pay for the coins picked them up and left while the auction continued. I cannot say that this has happened to me again. At the NYINC the turnaround is a minimum of one day and can be something like two or three days. I have never availed myself of this service as I would have to pay New York Sales tax (8%?) and then our GST on the way home. One of the coins I bought at that auction
    Metapontion Ar Nomos 470-440 BC Obv. Ear of barley. Rv The same incuse. Noe 258 HN 1486 8.22 grams 21 mm Photo by W. Hansen metapontum17.jpeg This is of course a coin from the second group which were struck on thicker flans with a reduced diameter. This coin has as a secondary symbol a grasshopper.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2021
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