1945-D Jefferson Nickel RPM-002

I'd rather not think about it.

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Looks closer to this, maybe an earlier die stage?
http://varietyvista.com/05 JN RPMs/1945DRPM028.htm

 

I’m still on -002. Wiles lists 49 varieties for the date and mm. Also of note, different obverse dies were used. Stage A was not a DDO. DDO-005 was paired with the reverse die for Stage B.

 

Not true
The ddo is with all stages
So is the RPM .

 

What reference are you using? Wiles shows stages B-F, and Wexler starts at stage C for the DDO-005?

 

Im probably wrong... but I don’t see doubling on the obverse, so that would limit it to stage A?
As P&G pointed out there is a separation in the upright of the D but it’s not shown in any of the -002 stages. Also the mark at the bottom of the D doesn’t match, at least by the pics. I’m still not convinced it’s a -002.

 

Coneca listing for the DDO .
http://varietyvista.com/04a JN DD Vol 1/DDO Detail Pages/1945DDDO005.htm

Also Brians site, from wexler listing .
It's DDO #1 .
https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/18

 

It is a bit confusing to me. I don’t see DDO either which would mean EDS. However, the vertical bar is not prominent enough to suggest EDS. Then again, the K11 crack is not there...suggesting EDS. But the remnant of the underlying MM is not prominent as in the -002 mm photo. I’ll also offer the inside arc of the underlying MM looks closer to the arc of the prominent MM arc suggesting different placement along with the split upper serif. Is it -002 or is there a very similar unattributed variety.

 

@Lehigh96 I would send this one off to get attributed, not just for me but it is a unique die stage. Most of the folks that we have stated will nail down the markers, or you could have your name on a new variety. Interesting for sure.
One of the markers I have been looking at is the raise in relief and the separation at the top of the curve. This relief is much different than a stage B -002. Also another distinct difference from 002 is the heavy relief at the top of the D.

By the way, It wouldn't hurt if you rolled a little bit of MS70 on that coin. It would make it cleaned depending on how you feel about it.

 

True for the DDO-005s, not so much for the RPM-002’s:
http://varietyvista.com/05 JN RPMs/1945DRPM002.htm

 

Pay no attention to the RPM listing for when the ddo start

Only pay attention to what the doubled die obverse listing states

 

Pay no attention to the RPM listing for when the ddo starts

Only pay attention to what the doubled die obverse listing states

 

I must be missing something. Are you saying there is no stage A RPM-002?

 

What I'm saying is the ddo starts at stage A and so does the RPM

The RPM and DDO are both together in all stages

 

Or you could send it to me to figure out. I would have fun attributing it!

Rick has a point taking photos in the manner that you see them on the attribution sites, can be key, when identifying variety's. A simple angle can give you the next look. Photos can be misleading, This coin could be within IMO a few strikes of any variety listed even a D/D/D. Have any of you studied it against a -001?

 

I couldn't agree more I don't understand why it's so hard to determine what's variety or RPM this coin is

All they have to do is follow what you said and all should be well

 

This has to be one of the hardest variety's we have seen in a few years.

 

I think you are missing something here or Mr Wiles has his records wrong. We are talking about a RPM on the reverse die and DDO on the obverse. Just because the die pairing for obverse DDO-005 is only known paired with the RPM- 002 reverse doesn’t mean the RPM -002 reverse wasn’t paired with a different obverse die.

 

I think if we had the coin in hand it would be very easy figure out which RPM or DDO it is

No pun intended but we're not lame people at this

 

Not sure I guess an easy way to find out is send Mr wiles an email and ask him about the listings