Featured Felix Schlag’s original Jefferson Nickel design

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  1. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    I am still not home from college to have mine in hand yet, but I am still very excited. I had been looking for the FSNC-2002 (my birth year) for almost 2 years now, but was discouraged because I didn't want to pay 175+ for both the matte and the proof.

    Now I'm thinking about submitting to ANACS maybe. Would they do that? I don't know how they are packaged or anything I think I heard someone say they don't fit in capsules..

    I'll pass :hungover:
     
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  3. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    https://www.landisstudios.net//product-page/felix-schlag-jefferson-gold
    The gold listing looks cool. It also says, by chance, that ANACS will grade it. lol! I got lucky this time. Think that they would do the same for the silver? I have some people to contact... when I have time. lol
     
  4. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Yes, ANACS will grade and slab the silver pair.

    Z
     
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  5. Nick Zynko

    Nick Zynko ZmanFla

    I agree, Longacre's shield nickel with rays was a solid design.
    1866 Shield Nickel.jpg
     
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  6. Nick Zynko

    Nick Zynko ZmanFla

    Awesome Post John! Jefferson's masterpiece Monticello has been on the top of my bucket list to visit for quite a while. I had read on the web site they also used the dome room for a children's play area as Jefferson had many young grandkids living with him at the end of his life. This kept them quietly out of earshot. Many historic writings and conversations had taken place within those hallowed walls! Thank you for posting the history of Schlag's nickel design and the incredible pictures of your trip to Monticello.
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    But the 19th century Philadelphia Mint could not strike well consistently without significant problems. Even this lovely specimen has a significant die crack a the top of the reverse that would render that die useless.
     
  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    My gold nickel showed up today, serial number 4. Looks great! Thankful I was able to buy one.

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  9. RonSanderson

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    But when the entire design is well struck, as on a proof, the detail of the walls and railings is quite attractive.

    By 1963 the detail of the railing around the roof was deteriorating, but the texture of the walls is really delightful.

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    05c 1963 PF #02 reverse 09.JPG
     
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  10. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    @RonSanderson
    That's a heck of a nice Jeff you have there.
     
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  11. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks! If it weren’t for a tick under the V of FIVE, I’d swear it was PF70.

    But it was only graded PF67. And after someone had it slabbed, I got it for only $5.70. Somebody ate the cost of slabbing, and certainly did not get the grade they expected, compounded by the insult of having to sell it for less than the plastic cost them.

    I am pretty sure I made it a raw coin again. I took it out for photos because an amazing coin like this doesn’t need a scratchy piece of plastic between it and the camera lens.

    I posted this and other 1963’s a couple of years ago at https://www.cointalk.com/threads/po...-in-order-by-date.322759/page-12#post-3228986.
     
  12. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    If anyone has a photo of this let me know. Just curious.
     
  13. love old coins

    love old coins Well-Known Member

    Nickels have always been my favorite coin and Felix Schlag's version is a gorgeous coin...I love his design!
     
  14. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Unless with proofs...if they're still striking them twice (I could be behind with changes).
     
  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    Another great educational post John. Thanks for taking the time to post it.
    My mind runs wild to think about what the reverse might look like if they hadn't insisted on having Monticello on it.
     
  16. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Maybe the smaller diameter made them easier to strike.
     
  17. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Not talking about proofs. Talking about a coin made for its intended purpose - to circulate in financial transactions.
     
  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The thousands of die marriages with shattered dies would indicate otherwise.
     
  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Nickel is a bear to to strike. The diameter of the coin is a minor issue compared with the basic hardness of the metal. Modern technology seems to have fixed the problem, but that was not true for all of the 19th century and most of the 20th.
     
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    And the set is now complete!

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  21. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Do we know why they decided to go from 20.5mm to 21.21mm? It seems that would have been the reason. I think the massive die cracking was due to the designs (which is why they moved away from the rays variety).
     
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