An 1866 KKK Token

Until I found and researched this I had no idea that KKK had tokens this far back. The obverse has the 1866 date but this if from the early 20th century, about 1910 or close to that date.

The ribbon across the shield reads “NON SILBA SED ANTHUR” which is a Latin and Gothic mix. It means “NOT SSLF BUT OTHERS”. The reverse reads OBE COUNTRY ONE FLAG ONE LANGUAGE along the rim.

The triangle and cross was a KKK symbol in the early 20th century. That would make this token the 2nd Ku Klux Klan which is now dissolved.

I obtained a number of older, very interesting tokens in that small lot that I recently purchased. This is not meant to distract or disturb anyone. I only post this as a token with history as I have done with other tokens as a collectible item in coin form.

 

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Nice token. I've never seen one before. Is the Reverse upside down?

 

Yea , nice Token man ! . Reverse is upside down though .

 

That’s very interesting. I bet it was made sometime around 1920, when the KKK took off with its second version.

 

Such political incorrectness.........How dare you mention such. The 'Libs' are surely gonna get their 'burros' out of joint.

That said, it's history, and there is no denying such an organization existed. We must learn (and accept) such concepts that brought about the initiation of this token, so that the mistakes of the past are not repeated.........

 

Silly me. Yes it is.

 

Here you go, the correct way. My new cell phone still has me learning how to use all these new Fangled functions.

 

The swastika symbol, 卐 (right-facing or clockwise) or 卍 (left-facing, counterclockwise, or sauwastika), is an ancient religious icon in the cultures of Eurasia. It is used as a symbol of divinity and spirituality in Indian religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

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Swastika - Wikipedia

 

These sorts of symbols make me sad, they represent hatred, murder, and current day divisions, as well as past. "The swastika is an ancient symbol that was in use in many different cultures for at least 5,000 years before Adolf Hitler made it the centerpiece of the Nazi flag. Its present-day use by certain extremist groups promotes hate." https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/history-of-the-swastika

 

If only.

 

Understood but they also represent other things as well. This is a left facing one. The one you referring to is right facing. We learn from history so I think it’s important that we understand history. Did you read my original post in its entirety?

 

I don't care for the symbol, it represents a lot of evil, that's all I'm saying. We can't pretend it didn't take on new contemporary meanings that echo through today because the Nazis adopted it as their symbol and that's what people associate it with today. The Nazis used (and neoNazis continue to use) a number of variations of the swastika. I don't think there's a "clean" version, unfortunately, if that is what you are arguing. It's prior meanings before the 1930s don't seem relevant to me, but yes, I'm aware of the prior history, as my post indicated, but the current meaning is what I find distasteful.

 

Understood

 

The coin or token doesn't bother me at all...it's the concept of displaying it, or having it's vibe in my home. I don't have any coins with swastikas...in my immediate family there were concentration camp survivors and the history is important...ALL history is important, the less filtered the better. Although I do have an autographed copy of "By Bread Alone" on my bookshelf I really wouldn't want any kkk or nazi coins in my personal collection...but I certainly don't mind seeing them in museums.

 

I think the OP's token is a neat piece of history even though I do not endorse the KKK in any way.

I have some Nazi-marked Reichspfennigs in the hoard of random world coins that has worked its way down through my family, that I still like to keep for the same reason. I don't seek out such things but I value their history.

On the subject of Swastikas and Sauwastikas, I still have a beautiful rug that my mother brought back when she visited India in 1976 as a college student. There are small Swastikas and Sauwastikas in each corner. We had it on the living room floor when I was little, before I knew anything about the symbols or their modern association. I just loved studying the patterns on it. I learned later from my mom that some visitors to our home would ask why we had a rug with swastikas on it.

 

I no longer have them as my ex stole them but in the mid 1970’s I lived in Leesville, Louisiana where I received 2 Nickels in change. Both of them had been counterstamped with 3 K’s. I do not encourage this but I do wish I had them.

 

Does anyone know what the Latin phrase means? "Non silba sed anthar" seems like nonsense. "Not ????? but ??????"... Silba and anthar aren't in my Latin vocabulary.

 

These things give me the creeps, I found a Nazi era pfennig in a coin roll search and it jarred me. I mentioned possibly throwing it out, but I put it in a lot of European coins I have found from CRH'ing and left it there.

That said, I won't collect such things - but have no problem with people collecting them in the proper context of preserving history.

 

It means not self but others.

 

I took Latin in school and still remember a lot of it, but those two words aren't even in my Latin dictionary.