First and Second Tetrarchy from Carthage

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    The Tetrarchic portraits are all military in nature, Diocletian was a barracks Emperor, --so strong, thick necked men with close cropped hair and beards. They also look alike, probably, in an attempt to reassure the people...this new ruler (insert name), looks assuringly like the other guys-- continuity is assured.
     
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  3. mightyknighty

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    Well the whole history of Rome is militaristic. Isn't Julius Caesar a military man? Isn't Septimius severus a military man? How come these guys did not show portrait of a thick neck man? Only from around 290 AD we start to see this feature?
     
  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Styles change...a few years later, beards are out. Plus this is Diocletian's Tetrarchy, his "vision"...his style.
     
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  5. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to nitpick, but was Hercules a god or a demigod? If he was a demigod, was he claimed by Maximianus or was he assigned to him by Diocletian to reinforce his secondary status?
     
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  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, Hercules was half-god, so lower in the pantheon than Jupiter. I don't know whether or not Diocletian assigned Maximianus to Hercules; but Diocletian picked number one Jupiter for himself, meaning whether Maxiamianus picked for himself or not, it didn't matter, he was by default getting a lesser god. Diocletian was in charge and Maximianus knew it. This is further reinforced by the workshops of the coins I posted-- Diocletian is A -- alpha and Maximianus is B-- beta.
     
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  7. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    If I were Maximiam, I probably would have picked Mars as my patron as protection from and as a warning to any potential invaders or usurpers. Hercules seems much less powerful. That's why I wondered if Hercules was Diocletian's suggestion/assignment.
     
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  8. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Hercules was very popular though--very much a "man of the people", since he was half man.
     
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