1941 S Large/Small MM Jefferson

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Lather, Nov 25, 2009.

  1. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    These look lake one is small and one large but the coins are so worn..
    Can someone tell me what one is Small and Large?? Thanks..
    And the value is higher on the???

    1941 S
     

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Lather:
    from the pictures I can only say that it does not appear to be different sized MM's.

    It would more likely be the difference in the strength of the die maker's strength in punching in the MM.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Here is an example of a small vs large mintmark.

    The short story: I submitted it to Coin World Clearing House as a new variety.
    The 1916S Regular and micro Mintmarks.

    Good old Eric Von Klinger replied, nothing there.

    Years later, Collector's Clearing House Announced: 1916 S large & small Mintmarks discovered.

    Oh well, at least Klinger is gone.

    regular Mint mark:
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    Micro/small mint mark:

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    look at the distance of the MM from the rim. That is the easiest way to see the difference in the size.

    Now listed in Cherrypicker's Guide.
     
  5. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    That is a sad story, .. But thanks for the info..
     
  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Ouch.
    I didn't need to hear this :crying:
    I'm putting together a birthyear set (you guessed it, 1941) and if there are two recognized mintmark sizes on the nickel, that just added another coin I have to find and buy :headbang:

    I'm going to have to look more closely at what other varieties for all the 1941 coins exist.
    I knew about the "AW"/"No AW" varieties for the proof halves.
    Maybe I can turn this into my first research project. And in the future maybe end up as a footnote in someone else's broader research.

    Let the fun begin ;)
     
  7. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    Release The Hounds!! And good hunting!
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    The two nickels pictured the Large "S" is on the left and the small on the right. the rarer of the two being the small "S" This variety is extremely difficult to locate in any grade. AU 50 @ $25. MS-63 @ $75. MS-65 @ $125. There is also a repunch MM the secondary s is south of the primary S This is a large "S" variety Most value is for the RPM Lg "S" MM. Then I know we really going to need another box of Kleenx for a certain member .....:bigeyes: yet another 1941-S Inverted MM normaly the sm. "S" variety. OH and did I mention the 1941-D repunched MM? secondary D is southeast of the primary. Just wanted to add to the supense!:goofer:
     
  9. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    This is the best way I can teach you:
    http://www.cointalk.com/t35122/

    For what it's worth - I'm pretty sure both of yours are the same MM - Small S - but you can be a better judge of that yourself once you see the thread I linked to.

    While the pic's aren't the best, they do show you good enough to be able to see the differances. I wish coin variety books would tell the same info rather than just post 2 pictures as it is harder to see what is different if you don't know what to look for!

    Speedy
     
  10. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    This is not correct, it's the large "S" that is a Cherry Pickers variety.

    This is not correct, it's the large "S" that is the Cherry Pickers variety.
    In these grades neither one is very rare, we find them all the time.
     
  11. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    Oh my! I LOVE THIS SITE! Thanks so much.. to ALL.. The links The Info!! All so helpful! You all have made my search much more profitable and informed!
    I enjoy cherry picking like never before!!
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    And your source is?.....
     
  13. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    Paddy, Thanks.. I like your Answer the best.. but would hate to start an argument about this..
    I still am a bit confused but will keep researching the difference..
    I will also try to get better pictures up today...

    I have books I collected before I started cherry picking.. I like that now I can go back and take another look at all to find these special ones.. so still hoping I have the variety


    HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL!!!
     
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Just like to know the source....as I have two complete jefferson nickel collections. with all known varieties and errors....I also have and keep a complete library of coin books and refference materals. Ask Speedy how many files I sent him to use on his web site for images of Jefferson nickels and Varieties /errors.
     
  15. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    Well I know with my Loop these look different.. Buy I am a bit green still..

    Oh So many Varieties
     
  16. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Cherry Pickers Guide

    Cherry Pickers Guide, Forth Edition Vol. 1 Page 307 bottom of the page FS# 5 cents-024.5 - also Breen# 2676
     
  17. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Lather, if you really wanna drive yourself nuts. Get one of these 1930's era binocular microscopes. Mine is 12X. just enough magnification that after awhile your coins are like a Rorschach test. Spacey Traci :bigeyes:
     

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  18. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    Awesome.. That is funny, I was going to ask today what might be a good microscope .. I need a better loop and mine being on 10x .. I think I am ready to move up.. And I like the Vintage stuff.. That is Cool..
     
  19. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    :) funky I collect antique microscopes my oldest is from 1840. my total collection is 9 now. My spouse made me slow down, because they took up too much room. Soooo, I went back to my childhood hobby coin collecting. LOL now she misses the microscopes. Traci :eek:
     

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  20. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    And your edition does not say under Comments "This Variety is extremely difficult to locate in any Grade? " Besides what I posted in reponce to the question asked came from this text reference......:headbang:
     
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