This Time a World Coin...Outta My Vault (Part 4)

I always found this to be a pretty cool coin.
I received this coin from my father in June 08, which he received from his father, back in 1991.
Here is what the certificate of authenticity says;

The photos were a bit hard to do, because it is still in the original packaging and I gotta tell you, it is in some pretty thick plastic... Don't want to tamper with it, keep it is original as possible
Any comments, good or bad are always accepted.

Enjoy!

 

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OOOOO....Very lovely coin!

See, I told you these aint dirt.

Now, go about 2,000 years before this coin and you will be on track

stainless

 

Nope this isn't dirt, because it isn't an ancient coin...

 

I also see you changed your avatar from dirt to a nice liberty dollar... Now that wasn't so hard now, was it? lol

 

TMoney...

I think that is a lovely coin...as you may well know, stamps like paper money were engraved and printed for use. I think it would be interesting for you to look up who may have engraved that stamp, then when they decided to have dies made for a coin as well as who prepared the dies. The Artist's I am sure will be different but it would be very cool to know this.

Give your Dad a nice high 5 for that one!!


RickieB

 

That would be cool to find out
I'll start doing some research
Thanks for the words RickieB

 

I have recently picked up a book that may shed some light on the engraver of the stamp..Can you provide me with the information on the packaging and if I can help point you in the right direction it might give you a head start.

The Book is called: The International Engravers Line, it is full of information on banknote and stamp engravings...it is written by: Gene Hessler


RickieB

 

Howdy T..... interesting penny. Traci

 

Well it looks like I found what I was looking for.

The person most associated with the Postal Reform, Rowland Hill, made proposals on said topic, in 1837. He was given a two year contract to run the system. In 1840 he launched a service with an envelope, with a reproduction design, of Queen Victoria, when she was 15, created by William Mulready. This design was first created by William Wyon, with his 1837 City Medal. The head was engraved by Charles and Fredrick Heath, with the help of a sketch made by Henry Corbould, which was based on the design of Wyon's original design.

 

Not a penny, a commemorative 1 crown piece, that commemoratives the first stamp, the penny black

 

TMoney...now that breathes a huge amount of life into the story of this Coin.
Wonderful information and congrats are in order! You are welcome to join our Security Engravers Group any time you wish.

Excellent post and now I understand what I am looking at.

Regards,

RickieB

 

Thanks again RickieB for your kind words. A little research does go a long way!

 

That is a cool coin there T$ and a lot of interesting history. Thank you for sharing

 

If further illustrations are desired, I can provide some photos of my penny blacks as well as some other info as I have a copy of "The Royal Philatelic Collection" which documents the English Royal Family's stamp collection with notes and info on the various artist,engravers, and printers of the stamps and other information. Rowland Hill also "invented" the postal box, as this cover from 1979 illustrates.
I realized stamps were engraved ( up to a time), but I hadn't considered them for this group's interest.

Jim

 

I'm not sure it's been mentioned in this thread, but the Penny Black is the accepted "first ever postage stamp". There was quite the hoo-ha for the 150th anniversary... one could put together an interesting collection of such material if one wanted. The original stamp itself is not horrendously expensive either (depending on condition, etc).

Dave

 

I, myself knew that, but others may not have. I thought it would be known, or inferred when I mentioned postal reform, meaning something is changing, from an old system, and the stamp was created.
Thanks for sharing that bit of information

 

Here is the penny black and the 2 pence blue of 1840. The red "cross" cancel covers much of the detail of the black, so I added the blue,which although it has a similar cancel, the engraving of the bust is easier to see.

Jim

 

WOW! Desertgem those are some pretty stamps, even with the cancelling... Although I'm thinking I like the blue two pence more than the penny black!

 

Very interesting thread .... thanks for sharing T$

 

T$, I think many people of the time thought that black was not becoming to a young Queen. Many felt black was the color of death announcements. The next year in 1841, the one penny was changed to red, and the 2 pence remained blue with some changes minor design change and change to blue paper. Many US engraved stamps used black later for memorial stamps. Postage stamps and stock shares often have excellent engravings.

Jim