FB Mercury?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jallengomez, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Hopefully these photos are good enough. Do you think this would slab FB?

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    where is the center band?
    That is the focal point.
    And weakest area (traditionally).
     
  4. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I agree with that. I've got virtually thousands of Mercury Dimes and as noted the middle ones usually go first. Wonder if anyone knows why?
    So what is the date and mint mark? If not a valuable one, why spend the money on having it graded. However, contrary to my own statement, at coin shows I've seen coins worth $1 in a slab and for being sold for about $5. All makes no CENTS but people do it anyway.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Carl

    I believe that the center is the weak point (for strike) because it is the point where the obverse die is deepest, thereby putting the least pressure on the center point of the reverse die, so the metal flow is weakest, and won't fill as well.
     
  6. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Why was I thinking that PCGS only required the upper and lower bands? I must have read some incorrect information somewhere. As for the date, it's a MS '45 P, so you can understand my excitement when I thought it might be FB!
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    okay, now we are really interested in the center bands.
     
  8. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Unfortunately they're not fully there. :( Oh well, it's still a nice looking coin.
     
  9. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    I believe, IMO, that PCGS will count the top and bottom lines while NGC counts the middle also. That would make NGC FB coins harder to come by and the PCGS one might not make the NGC FB grade.

    Bruce
     
  10. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I thought I had read that somewhere, that's why I was thinking this might go FB w/PCGS.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It might, but it might not as well. To me the question is - is it worth trying ? To know that, we need to see the rest of the coin.
     
  12. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I'll post more photos when I get home this evening. The center band is definitely not full though.
     
  13. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    This is closeup 1941-S MS65FB this may help.
     

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  14. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Jello,

    I think it definitely has full upper and lower bands, but definitely does not have full center bands. I'll post more pics later today. In the meantime maybe someone knows for sure whether or not PCGS does/does not factor in center bands. Maybe I'm confusing this with their policy on FBL'ing Franklins. I think in respect to that, that they only require full lower bell lines.
     
  15. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector


    I was not aware of this difference between PCGS and NGC definitions of FB. Where could I find confirmation?
     
  16. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    With Merc's it is the middle band that matters with all grading services.
    I do think you are mixing it up with Franklins as NGC uses both sets of lines while PCGS grades only the bottom set.
     
  17. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    all bands, top, middle & bottom.
     
  19. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    FB in my opinion. I like the looks of that Merc.
     
  20. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I now know this would not FB, but for those who wanted to see the full reverse, here it is.

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  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thanks for posting, and no, not a FB.

    But, is it PL?
    That would be interesting, and unusual.
     
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