Seated Quarter; Damage or Die Crack

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  1. Crate Digga

    Crate Digga Active Member

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    Since the quarter is slightly bent and environmental damage, I assumed the cracks were from whatever truck ran it over. Upon closer examination, they look like die cracks. Is this an error coin or something else?
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'd weigh it before doing anything else . . . it's almost assuredly a fake, and doesn't even look like silver.
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I agree,looks like a Fake . :(
     
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  5. mike estes

    mike estes Well-Known Member

    hey @Crate Digga x3 on weighing the coin. so many fakes out there now. have you searched for any more coins like yours? good luck to ya man
     
  6. igotchange

    igotchange Active Member

    its damage isnt it? a die crack would leave a raised area not a recessed area.
     
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  7. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    :yack:o_O
    Agreed that it doesn't look silver.

    Yes, you're correct :)
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I see a die crack and I see a damaged coin. I'm not looking at it being fake.
     
  9. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    And don't forget the apparent clashed die on the obverse.
    Hey, if you're going to fake a coin, do it to the max :rolleyes:
     
  10. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Fake,also do the ring test,magnet,ice cube and the worst sniff it still might be silver at least.
     
  11. Crate Digga

    Crate Digga Active Member

    I'm shocked and appalled that a fake US Coin would slip it's way into my collection. I'm going to weigh it and do ring test when I get home. Maybe some higher resolution photos, the cracks almost looked like stress fractures from the coin being bent. But they radiate like die cracks I've seen. The mystery continues! Thanks all...
     
  12. Crate Digga

    Crate Digga Active Member

    4.3g so obviously a fake with no ring. Where the hell did I get this? I wonder if it's contemporary it looks old.
     
  13. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Could very well be a cast contemporary counterfeit. Looks old and crude enough.
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It could be contemporary

    Interesting example of the period.
     
  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    This just illustrates where this hobby has been going. Credit YouTube and social media, generally. But here's an OP with an obviously fake seated quarter and the only thing he can think of asking is whether certain marks on it are die cracks.

    I'm not trying to put this on him. I'm just trying to illustrate, this is where this hobby is going, today. I'd have spotted this when I was 9-years-old. What a shame.
     
  16. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    Looks like it was cast. No doubt it is fake.
     
  17. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    It's a fake, what a shame. Sorry
     
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  18. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Looks like the outline of the USA on the obverse. LOL
    My first impression was a really bad cast fake, but then what do I know?
     
  19. John Wright

    John Wright Well-Known Member

    This piece, whether real or fake, has had a hard, painful life since it was made. A 'die' used to strike coins carries an intaglio image of the coin it is supposed to create. What sticks up on the coin is depressed on the die. A 'crack' in a die is a fissure on the die, so it creates a raised image on the coin struck by that die. The 'lines' on your piece are fissures, not raised. So they are post-striking developments on your piece, not 'die cracks'. I have shown a few examples below of what a 'die crack' looks like. 1802 S-231 3 cc13 XF40  WCN.jpg 1802 S-236 2 cc06 AU50  WCN.jpg
     
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  20. Crate Digga

    Crate Digga Active Member

    Wow thanks for the insult. I have a few dozen Morgan dollars and other coins with die cracks. I'm still learning the hobby and everything seemed off about the coin. Fissures is what they clearly are, I didn't know if a planchet could crack under pressure that's why I asked if it was an error. Did I make a post boasting about my valuable rare error, or did I humbly ask for opinions of more experienced members? Yeah this is where the hobby is going, students of Numismatics of several years being slighted by older members. Maybe I won't contribute - Edited - next time. I've spent a lot of time studying coins, and not from - Edited - youtube. The details on this coin don't look terrible, hell two other members thought it could be genuine. The ring test made it very clear it wasn't made of silver, but with all the stress of life I didn't even think of doing that. Would've kept me from making this stupid - Edited - post insinuating I have the observation skills of a nine year old. Thousands of coins and raising a little boy on my own and I have the eyes of a nine year old. - Edited - .


     
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  21. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I think you both need to go into time out.
     
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