Help me grade my 41 Walker and 45 Merc!

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  1. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    I have had these for around 4-6 months now, and its time for me to ask what you guys think they'll grade at!
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  3. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    The walker is a bit baggy on the obv, so my guess is MS63

    Merc is pretty solid, but the strike isn't the best. My guess there is AU58
     
  4. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    AU Details( cleaning)
    and
    AU55
     
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  5. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    Ah, ok! For future use, how can you tell a cleaned coin from uncleaned?
     
  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    It appears to have hairline scratches esp on the obverse fields which are a telltale sign of cleaning.
    This is because cleaning typically utilizes friction, in which an abrasive compound is rubbed against the metal leaving scratches.

    Then again, those marks could be bag marks, but in this case looks more like hairlines.
     
  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I think 58 is a bit high for that one. I see a reasonable amount of wear, so I'll go with AU53
     
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  8. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    I can get a closer photo of the fields if that helps.
     
  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    please do
     
  10. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    This Coin Shows lifeless luster, which is typically for cleaning. There is no cartwheel Luster at all. Sorry.
     
  11. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    Ah, damn. Oh well, you live and you learn.
     
  12. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    Ywah, looks cleaned now that I take my scope to it.
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  13. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Do you see the difference?
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  14. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

  15. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    How do people tell the difference between bag marks/contact marks vs. cleaning marks?

    I suck at identifying cleaned coins and I would like to get better so I can have the confidence to buy raw coins.

    So far I’ve only purchased PCGS/NGC slabbed coins aside from like American Silver Eagles & stuff I get directly from the Mint.
     
  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    For the most part, bag marks are wider than hairlines. Hairlines are also more dense than bag marks. Basically, picture taking sandpaper to an object vs a chisel
     
  17. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Ahh gotchya! Thanks!

    That's interesting because when I bought my V75 ASE it has a couple hairline scratches on it even though I haven't taken it out of the capsule. I checked to make sure it wasn't on just the capsule but sadly I can see them on the coin under magnification. Only under a super bright light though.

    It frustrates me that it has them but returning it would be pointless since I think it's still worth more than the $83 I paid.
     
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