Is this a silver plug 1795 flowing hair dollar?

PCGS mislabeled it as draped bust--could they have missed the silver plug too?

 

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Can' see any signs of it in the image but it's a really cool coin in a great old holder.

 

I see what you are looking at, but I don't think that is the plug.

 

I do not know about the plug, but I sure think that was the most unique eagle, almost peacock like.

 

Clearly not a Draped Bust, given the 3 leaves under each wing, etc. But, I don't see the plug. Still a nice dollar.

 

You don't have to look at the reverse and how many leaves are under the eagles wings to know it's not a Draped Bust example. The Draped Bust obverse is very different looking from that of a Flowing Hair obverse.

 

My apologies to all for not going into more detail and for not using a picture to illustrate my point.

 

I see what I am sure you are using as a basis of asking about the plug, but I think it is post mint.

Jim

 

Here are photos to illustrate my point:

 

I understand Major. I feel the problem is that none of us have the coin in hand to actually know what it is from an image. I can't see the plug in either image.

 

Call me crazy, but those two coins have very different grades and yet very similar amount of detail.

 

In fact, I prefer the eye appeal of the F12 myself.

 

looking at the slabbed plug....

now I am not sure.

 

The first coin is in a very old slab. It's possible that if it were resubmitted it might get graded higher.

 

I also am unsure if PCGS identified the silver plug variety when using "rattler" holders. From my research:

Why did the 1795 Flowing Hair dollar (and half) with silver plug go "undiscovered" for some 200 years? One can only surmise. In early America, coins were often holed for jewelry, pocket pieces and coat buttons. Many were plugged later, often expertly. Some who noticed the circle may have assumed this had occurred. Moreover, . Even professional numismatists, who noticed the curious circle, dismissed it as "toning." As late as October 1992, when the noted Starr collection was auctioned by Stack's, the catalogue described a silver plugged 1795 dollar as having "a splash of toning, mostly in the central portions of each side." The overwhelming consensus today is that the "plugs" were inserted prior to striking to correct light planchets, in an experiment which occurred only in 1795. The Red Book began listing the "silver center plug" as a separate variety in 1994.

Note the statement "the outline of the plug is nearly (or completely) invisible on darkly-toned specimens."

 

I think it will kill you until you contact PCGS and ask how to get it recheck as to variety, so I would do that myself if I had it.

Jim

 

I have been maligned on these boards but this is my first death omen (just kidding)

 

I agree. I don't think you will be happy until you know...one way or the other.