1908-S/S IHC?

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  1. Lembeck13

    Lembeck13 Active Member

    On a mintmark?
     
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  3. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    That’s what I was thinking I only thought it was on the wording on the coin but I am not 100% sure.
     
  4. frech001

    frech001 New but Old

    Previous posters suggested submitting your coin to Rick Snow for attribution and I would agree. His fee for attributing is reasonable and the extra documented information is worth it. I've submitted some to Rick and have been happy to find one was a new variety, which he included in his book. Contact Rick at: https://www.indiancent.com/. If you want it slabbed ask
    Rick which grading company to submit it to, and perhaps he will facilitate that. Not all will include attribution information on the slab.
     
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  5. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you! I was checking his website yesterday and couldn’t find anything on pricing, so you recall how much you paid? This IHC was intended for selling on my eBay store so whoever takes her home Sunday night I’ll highly recommend all of this information.
     
  6. frech001

    frech001 New but Old

    Yes, I just emailed Rick to find out here is what he sent today: "Its $4 plus return postage for attributions. It may take a month to process." Should I bid on your 1908 or do you want to pull it and get it checked out first so you have a better idea of what it might be worth? If it is a verified new variety it will be worth much more.
     
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  7. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    Wow that’s not bad at all only 4$? No friend as I’m not an avid collector of the IHC I know there’s someone that is and believe this belongs to that person to make that decision. I know it could bring in more money but I’ll leave that up to whoever. I am starting to get more curious though so I am going to push the buyer to send it to Rick lol
     
  8. frech001

    frech001 New but Old

    I couldn't tell from your photos if this is strike doubling, which is described in Rick Snow's Attribution Guide as:
    "Many strike doubled pieces get confused as repunched
    mint marks. Strike doubling occurs when dies are loose in their seating and move slightly during striking. A flat shelf-like projection is produced around the edges of the design in one direction. Since the mint mark is punched into the die separately from the wreath, any doubling on both elements would not normally occur, and is likely strike doubling." Unfortunately this coin has been counterfeited also. The bumpy surface of the coin seems odd to me, but without closer examination it is impossible to tell. Rick would likely also detect that and that could trigger a return by the eBay buyer. https://www.ngccoin.in/news/article/8711/counterfeit-detection-1908-s-cent/
     
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  9. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    I see what your saying about the bumpy lettering and everything but the date looks very solid and so do the letters when I compare it to the “counterfeit” version. That version is very wavy. And also the “one cent” on the reverse looks very solid compared to the “counterfeit” you shared. If I just add the coin especially on the “one cent” has the longacre “doubling” affect on parts of it which I don’t think people that counterfeit coins have gotten down or spend the precise time to perfect. That was even hard enough for most of the dies to do back then as it would usually fail or not be all lettering. I also weighed the coin which weighs the exact weight. I do believe this to be authentic but most likely a MD (machine doubling) on the mint mark. It would be interesting to see what Rick would have to say though on what variety the MM is.
     
  10. AirborneReams

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    If you zoom in on the “one cent” you can see parts of the Longacre as well for reference.
     
  11. frech001

    frech001 New but Old

    It was hard to tell in the photos. Lighting can be confusing. I use a dissecting stereo microscope. I raised the counterfeit question because I bought a counterfeit 1909 S IHC on eBay. Fortunately the seller refunded my money when I mailed it back.
     
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  12. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    I think regular S, but I am no expert. What I do have is a lower grade example and my S looks like yours and is thick in the middle and thinner on the top and bottom loops. Pictures are not the best but good enough to see the similarity. Polish_20210329_211919183.jpg
     
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  13. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    Yes I’ve sadly purchased counterfeit IHC and other coins and have learned what to look for. The sellers have always accepted my returns and if they didn’t thank god for the eBay protection. I also send full refunds upon arrival, not questions asked. I can see why you’d have a raised eyebrow. I use my camera with a macro lens for the best pictures I can take so what the buyer can expect the coin to look like in hand. Lighting is a tough one though.
     
  14. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    It could possibly just be an S MM but the doubling does raise some questions and for Rick Snow to look at it for 4$ plus shipping may not be out of the question.
     
  15. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Rick was super nice to me the one time I met him when I walked into his store here in Tucson in 2019. Let me hold and look at the 1877 top pop he had from a recent collection he had purchased. Bought his book and he graciously signed it for me and I also purchased a couple of other small value items. Note that this is not the 1877 but something he had in his $2 bin. 20200724_201703.jpg
     
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  16. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Here is the 1908 S/S from his book. 20210329_214429.jpg
     
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  17. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    That’s awesome you got to meet the guy, and glad to hear he was nice! Definitely a sweet Lincoln you picked up. I still see some things that don’t meet that. It honestly would be great to have this coin sent over and evaluated by him. Or someone can just enjoy it and hold on to it.
     
  18. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    So which one of you snagged the 1908-S??
     
  19. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Not me,how much did it sell?I'm guessing its at least $100 and on.
     
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  20. AirborneReams

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    She went for 291$ shot up the last few seconds. Just want to know if it was anyone here and if they were sending her to Me. Snow
     
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  21. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Yea way out of my range,what was your expectations of it?
     
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