Very small sestertius, or unlisted as?

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I have this Gordian III AE24, which certainly seems like an as to me.

    However, the only coin with this FELICIT TEMPOR reverse is described on Wildwinds as a sestertius.

    I can't imagine any sestertius being only 24mm, so do I simply have an as that isn't listed on WW?

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  3. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Can't read the reverse so maybe you can check this out.
     
  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    How much does it weigh? Small flans are usual for Gordian sestertii.
     
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  6. curtislclay

    curtislclay Well-Known Member

    FELICIT TEMPOR is a scarce type on asses: Bland found only three specimens in his visits to the major public collections, namely in BM, Vienna, and Paris. So it's not surprising that Wildwinds hasn't recorded one yet.
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    This is only 9.7g, which would be criminal!
     
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  8. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    yeah, so not the sestertius. was my numista link correct? I didn't look through every listing I just saw it and thought it fit.
     
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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Looks perfect! I cross-checked the RIC number on Numista, 328B, and it shows as a sestertius.

    I suspect this might be one of those double-listed RIC coins where two denominations share the same ric number, with an alphabetic variation.
     
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  10. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Cool :)
    I like Gordian III and I think I had the chance to get one of these. I didn't a got a sestertius but not this reverse
     
  11. curtislclay

    curtislclay Well-Known Member

    Yes, Numista illustrates the BM specimen of this As, one of the 3 that Bland recorded.

    The RIC numbers are 328a for the sestertius, 328b for the As, and 328c for the even rarer dupondius. The typesetter, however, left out (b) for the As in the column for catalogue numbers.
     
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  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks fir the help everyone. I wasn’t expecting this to be such a rare type.

    the awful patina is unfortunate, but for $7 in a group lot I guess I shouldn’t complain
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    super like!
     
  15. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Very nice patina!
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The OP here was pretty useless without a weight. Gordian III asses I have seen tend to be close to 10g. Also, the flan preparation process often seems to be 'different' with asses being rounder and tapered edge while sestertii are more squared off and often look clipped. These are my gut feeling/observations and not the result of a careful study. Someone planning a lifetime study of these can address this and see if it is reasonable. I only have two GIII asses, 11.5 and 10.88g (the second hardly counts due to the overstrike).
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    Sestertii: 20.2 and 16.8g. Are sestertii 10-20 times as common as asses? It looks that way to me but again this is not a scientific study.
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    Can someone show asses with the clipped, squared look?
     
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  17. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    About as square as it gets.

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