1909-S/Horizontal S Lincoln Cent

Yes this is a nice older coin with an S over a horizontal S. Graded by PCGS as a VG10 and I got it st a good price so I'm pleased.

 

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Nice

 

Nice error for the collection.

 

Nice, I like this RPM, this is before slabbing so its easier to photograph. Once you see it, its easy to notice. Jim

 

Jim, can you do a Photoshop on this picture and draw in the underlying horizontal S so we can see what you're evidently seeing? I'm afraid all I'm seeing is a little stub off the S. Will you draw in the rest of it so we can see how the stub relates or connects to the underlying horizontal S? Again, I'm having the hardest time visualizing it...

 

I should have mentioned this is mintmark -002 and it is slanted more forward at ( by eye) about a 60 degree or so angle. This photo on Lincoln Resource shows it better than mine.
http://www.lincolncentresource.com/RPMS/1909SoverhorizontalSrpm2.html
It seems like an earlier stage of the die.

Jim

 

Good information, thank you.

 

I'm still not seeing it. I can see 001 clearly, but not this one. I can see remnants in the pictures of this one, but not anything that connects up to form an S. If you ask me, it takes an imagination to "see" this one. And yet, it's a top RPM. "Imagine" that.

 

Mine is difficult to see in a photo of the slab but it is there in hand.

 

I'm in the same camp as @eddiespin
I'm trying hard to see it. Also, for the record, I don't doubt what everyone and the grader is seeing. I'm just befuddled because I can't for the life of me see it.

 

A few days back while we were down here I went to an old forum I was joined-up in years ago and mostly lurk in now and among the interesting threads I came across this one I replied in because it was quite the education for me. While here we cringe at the slightest criticism, it's a part of the fabric, here, now, one might observe, in this thread are both CONECA and Wexler "delisting" designations they presumptively made, the Wexler designation, WRPD-001, even having made it to an ANACS slab, as such, before the delisting. The CONECA designation was a DDO (DDO-001). These both were subsequently "delisted." When I view the picture, I see obvious strike doubling, and a few random cuts in the die adjacent to the 5 in the date. This is a 1956-D cent. If you'd like to see the thread: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=395603.

My admiration goes to these entities for correcting these listings. But if this shows anything, it shows there's a degree of imagination in this. And when no one to date has so much as even endeavored to trace an outline of this "Horizontal-S" they're evidently seeing in these loose fragments, I'm wondering whether there's even one there.

What I think, giving all benefit of the doubt, these fragments were but an attempt at an S, until the engraver saw he was going in cockeyed. He then re-aligned and punched in a good S over the cockeyed fragments. That's why no one can outline-in this "Horizontal-S." It exists, but in the imagination. Top RPM. Lol, I'm sorry to say.

 

THANK YOU!

 

Bad caligraphy @eddiespin but here is the hor/s.

 

Here’s an interesting read:
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mapping-coins.333728/

 

He's our resident master at this. Unbelievable work.

 

That's where they're saying it is? At least you drew it in, and now I know where they're looking, thanks for this.

 

It's tough to see especially on a Woodie. But it is there.

 

Once an S/Horizontal S is slabbed it's very difficult to get a photo of it so it shows.

 

You are making it a habit of making me jealous collecting nut, Bah-Hum-Bug. Great find.