Machine doulbing

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Charles Tolson, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. Charles Tolson

    Charles Tolson New Member

    You know,I seen a video of a person.Not naming any names! Saying Machine Doubling is not an error.If it comes from the mint? Its an mint error! Its amazing how they split hairs on this!Its an mint error!
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Machine doubling aka mechanical doubling aka strike doubling aka ejection doubling is not considered a Mint error. When you have dies striking planchets tens of thousands of times making coins, the dies are bound to loosen in their place and the vibrations cause them to make poor strikes.

    If you think it is a Mint error, be my guest, but don't think you are going to get anyone with any amount of knowledge of numismatics agreeing with you.
     
  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    ^^^What he said. 20210317_102508.jpg
     
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  5. Charles Tolson

    Charles Tolson New Member

    Coins are going way too cheap! One of a kind! Please,tell me this is not going on to i
     
  6. Charles Tolson

    Charles Tolson New Member

    If it comes from the mint its a error! Hands down!
     
  7. Charles Tolson

    Charles Tolson New Member

    And thats the way im going to sell them
     
  8. JPD3

    JPD3 Well-Known Member

    If you want to call them errors and amass them, I'm sure many here and elsewhere would be happy to sell you their MDs. Just sayin'.
     
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  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Here is what John Wexler has to say about mechanical double on his website www.doubleddie.com (click the worthless doubling tab on the left). He summarizes it better than I could ever do.

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    Unfortunately these other forms of doubling are quite common and basically worthless to serious collectors of die varieties with doubling such as doubled dies. Most serious collectors of doubled dies view these other forms of doubling as a type of damage to the coin rather than a collectible form of doubling. As such, there is no extra value assigned to coins that feature these common forms of doubling.

    Here we will examine some of the common, worthless forms of doubling that are found on U.S. coinage and what they look like on coins. Hopefully what you see will help you to be able to distinguish between these common forms of doubling and genuine doubled dies. We will also look at what causes these common forms of doubling and you will readily see why serious doubled die collectors view them as a form of damage with no extra value.

    If you buy doubled dies or other collectible forms of doubling for your collection, you need to be very careful especially if you are buying coins from people or dealers that you do not know. Many so-called doubled dies are being sold by people who either don’t know themselves that not all coins with doubling are the result of doubled dies, or worse yet, by people who do know the difference and hope that the buyer won’t know the difference.

    I have personally seen numerous “doubled dies” for sale on Ebay which were nothing more than mechanical doubling. Sometimes they were getting significant bids. I always feel sorry for the folks that end up winning those lots as they are not getting genuine doubled dies. Unfortunately, they probably won’t realize or find out that they have a coin with worthless doubling until they try to sell it themselves.

    One of the first clues that you may be buying from someone who doesn’t know much about doubled dies would be when you see a coin being offered as a “double die.” The correct term is “doubled die”. On genuine doubled dies the doubling is on the die that strikes the coins, hence the term “doubled die”.

    If you are an honest person and are selling doubled dies, you have the responsibility to make sure that you are selling the real thing and not one of the worthless common forms of doubling.
     
  10. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    You’re what’s wrong with coin collecting. Chew on that for a while.
     
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  11. Charles Tolson

    Charles Tolson New Member

    Wexler doesnt mean nothing to me.Hes dead!I dont care how many times its been been struck! Its an error! Chew on That for awhile
     
  12. Charles Tolson

    Charles Tolson New Member

    No,its not me. Its these guys on youtube that think they are genius,or coin God! I dont even know you! Your just another person that goes with the sheep!
     
  13. JPD3

    JPD3 Well-Known Member

    Well there you go, watching too many you tube vids will make you Dien cai dao.
     
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  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    You're so smart, Charles. Do stick here and show us the way out of the darkness.
     
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  15. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    There is a difference between expected process variation and unexpected process variation. The machine damage we routinely see here fits the former.
     
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    That is your choice, but before you do, may I suggest that you work on improving your grammar and spelling. Otherwise, everyone else will think you're an idiot, too!
     
  17. Charles Tolson

    Charles Tolson New Member

    Read the rules Charles
     
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