1984 ear error?

looks like dbling to me...what do you think?

 

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appEARs to be PMD to me.

 

This is a perfect example of my discussion and poll on doubled dies

This is a perfect example of my discussion and poll on doubled dies.
You have been around for a bit and I hope you play along but why did you feel this mashed ear was worth a post? Really I'm not wanting to put you on the spot but did you not know this yet and if not why???
That's what I'm trying to get at - people post a photo for a general questions without learing the reasons themselfs.

 

I wasn't sure...it's kinda funny actually after reading your reply...I have seen so many different varieties...I thought this might be one of them...is there only ONE variety of the 1984 dbl ear? Does it look all mashed up, really? Boy I feel like a big stupid idiot.....not really, joking...I haven't been around that long, and I do not post a ton of stuff, really just ones I feel need to be looked at by someone else to double check...Do you feel you have this dbl die down a hundred percent??? I mean I think there are a lot of people that still, after years, are fooled by dbl dies...and if it is or not. Not to put you on the spot, but is there a place that someone new and still learning can go to post pics they have questions about?

 

Post mint damage it looks like a hit
John

 

No I don't know doubled dies 100% of the time -the only thing I know 100% of the time

No I don't know doubled dies 100% of the time -the only thing I know 100% of the time is a like to help others when I can. With that I think our current form of help regarding doubled dies is lacking and I want to find out some of the reasons why.
There is only 1 big 1984-P DDO-001 doubled ear, it's huge. I don't know if there is any mionors (in regards to the ear I don't care. There are some other nice ones but the doubling is on Liberty and date.
What I want you and others to learn is how to tell this coin you posted is a hit. You do that by thinking and looking. A hit looks like a hit. A place on a coin that is indented or mashed, you do this by looking at what it's not. You look at the coin and try and imagine what has happened. Are the sides or edges of the hit upturned? Can you feel it when you rub your finger accross it as an edge? Is these another place lower or higher on the coins surface that was also in contact with said hit? Is the hit's center brighter or different color than other areas near it? Is the hit on a higher portion of the coins design? Just look at the new Lincoln's second issue near where the doubled dies are found. That biggest index finger has sustained hit in 2 out of three coins, it's the highest portion of the reverse die.
What I want you to learn for you is all aspects of coins (in this case) that have hits. With that knowledge you will be better armed for another thousand coin questions that you will see in the fututue, 10's of thousands then you can help others this same way.
This thought process is what I want you to learn for you so you can answer your own questions better not to spare us or anything else. I just feel like we are spinning our collective wheels here by not stressing, do the work first then ask!
Would you really want to me just post a picture when I have the oppertunity to help you really learn???

 

Hard to tell from the pictures what caused the damage but that is damage.

 

dbl ear this one is a smaller variety

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kinda resembles mine a little I think good pictures are a must too, and I get my new camera for christmas,so, i will have to wait...thanks for all the advice and I will keep my mind open.

 

Hits on Lincoln's ear are constantly being confused as a possible doubled ear. A doubled ear is larger than a normal one, whereas a hit is usually smaller.

This ear was hit, that's all.

 

That DD looks like a 1997 Doubled die. It almost looks excatly alike.

 

Kinda does not also - did you hear one word I said?

Kinda does not also - did you hear one word or suggestion I said?
Why don't you buy "The Error coin Encyclopedia" by Marglolis and invest your time learning out about real errors and die varieties.
If you want help we will help you but im beginning to think you do not or you want to make this into some kind of "the boy that cried wolf" type thing over and over.
As nice as I can be if you want an idea about what to do with this coin my best advice is throw it off a bridge someplace and move on to the next one - at least maybe that one will be something worth this much time and effort.

 

bhp3rd...Go Away....do not post anything to me please.

 

Doubled Ears

The black arrows show the normal ear on four varieties below, the white arrows show the doubled area (i.e., the second ear).

When a coin takes hit the ear loses size as part of it was flattened down. For it to be a doubled die, the normal part of the ear must be present with an additional area of doubling.

(Also note that plating bubbles on clad Lincolns are almost just as often confused with the small doubled ear variety 2006P DDO-004.)

 

way cool pics...thank you sooo much Jcuve!

 

Just wanted to say that when I started on errors I was posting alot of what I thought to be errors. This forum is full of experts and time after time gave me great info. A suggestion is to take some time away, and do some research on your own to get more informative on errors and varieties. It is a big benefit to do the research on your own that way it sticks and you actually learn something. The people here give great assistance but it is up to you to get educated. Good luck

 

jcuve, posted a nice group of doubled ears that are doubled dies.

They are legitimate doubled dies.

As for 1984, there is the one that he showed. There is also another 1984 die variety with some doubling on the ear but the doubling is more strongly visible on the bottom of the bust.

There is also a 1984 D that matches, to a degree the 1984 with the doubled bust.

The coin at the top of the thread is not a doubled die but is indeed a hit or a bit of machine doubling on the ear.

Thanks,
Bill

 

fishaddict
I appreciate what you have said, as all of us newer peoples here have heard it a time or two. It is when the ones that take this so seriously that they get mad when asked what "they" think to be a stupid question. I don't like that. I do read...and I think all of us do to some degree..and even if all I read is from this site, it would be an awsome amount of information because of the more educated ones have gone to teach the newer ones where to go, what tolook for,etc....it is when someone comes down on another person on this site it begins to lose it's appeal and fun. I get excited and find coin searching a blast...but not when I get blasted for no reason at all. I am very open minded to critisism...I am not open minded to mean spirited comments. As time goes on, I will learn...not just about coins, but about human nature. thanks
Michelle:mouth:

 

Hi Michelle,

Well said!

Bill

 

Hey,
I agree, some people just need to relax.