10-STG 1933 have John Doe in court room now

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jello, Oct 17, 2009.

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Technically what you just wrote is copyrighted, as is what I just wrote. Anything, written by anybody is copyrighted.

    As for the pictures, if one is marked as being copyrighted it will not be allowed to be posted here either. Otherwise, we have no way of knowing who a given picture belongs to or who owns the copyright, or if they have given permission to use it, or, or or. So we allow pictures for the most part.

    And as for pics from places like Heritage - we have permission to use them.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 18, 2009
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  3. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    I was asking about Langdon because:

    The 1933 $20 gold coins are slightly different than the ones made previously.
    They have secret Masonic and Egyptian symbols encoded in the design.
    That's why they couldn't be released to the public,
    but King Farouk was allowed to have one.
    Dan Brown will tell us about that in his next book.

    :)
     
    willieboyd2, Oct 18, 2009
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    lol ! :D
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 19, 2009
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  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I do play by the rules GDJMSP:thumb:
     
    jello, Oct 19, 2009
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  6. scotty1418

    scotty1418 Junior Member

    Lol! You beat me to the punch about "Langdon"! I was about to jump all over that ;)

    I believe there is a 'fair use' policy for copyright use that allows use of copyright material for "discussion or educational purposes". I would strongly suggest this forum is in place to further each collectors education?

    http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
     
    scotty1418, Oct 19, 2009
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  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    We have rules and I try to obey them all
    But that for the update maybe our rules will change???
     
    jello, Oct 19, 2009
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, it is. But did you read what the Fair Use rules are ? In particular #3 ?

    It says - "The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole "

    What that means is that you may quote portions of the work or article for the purposes of discussion or education. But you may not quote the complete work or article.

    Portions are typically limited to a few key sentences or perhaps even a paragraph. But that's it.

    And that is what we allow here. But you cannot copy an entire article from Coin World and post it here. THAT is copyright infringement.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 19, 2009
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  9. scotty1418

    scotty1418 Junior Member

    Of course...I understand the 'excerpts' ...we dont want people posting entire coin books word for word ;)

    Thanks for the response.
     
    scotty1418, Oct 19, 2009
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  10. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Addressing your points in order:

    First, it was accepted practice at that time for customers to be able to exchange their gold coins for others of different dates. Deception might or might not have been involved. And the coins might have left the mint legally. Frankly, there is simply no way to prove that, one way or the other.

    Second, whether Izzy Swift obtained the coins legally or illegally, if it can't be proved either way, the family should be able to retain ownership of them.

    Third, I agree that the burden of proof SHOULD be on the government, but things might not end up that way, even though they appear to be at the present time.

    Fourth, the disposition of the burden of proof should not have any bearing on what the Langbord side has to prove with respect to any John Doe's that might be added to the lawsuit.
     
    Mark Feld, Oct 19, 2009
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  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Mark I agree 100%
    I think they danging the feet hope the family run out of $$$$
     
    jello, Oct 20, 2009
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  12. BNB Analytics

    BNB Analytics New Member

    Where's the link?
     
    BNB Analytics, Oct 20, 2009
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    In post #7. But unless you are a paid subscriber to Coin World, it won't do you any good.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 21, 2009
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