Great silvering

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  1. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I recently aquired a Victorinus antoninanus that turned out to be a very positive surprise.
    The auction photo was somewhat overexposed, so I was uncertain about what the coin looked like in real life. The coin arrived last week, and it looked pretty great:

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    Victorinus BI Antoninianus. Treveri, AD 269.

    Obverse: IMP C PIAV VICTORINVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust to right

    Reverse: PAX AVG, Pax standing to left, holding olive branch and long transverse sceptre; V in left field, star in right.

    Reference: RIC V.2 117; Mairat 569.

    Diameter: 19mm Weight: 2.96g 2h

    I don’t think I have seen a coin from Victorinus, nor Tetricus, Tetricus II or Quintillus, with this kind of silvering. I would love to see one though! Please post your coins with great silvering.
     
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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

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    Victorinus
    AD 268-270
    antoninianus
    20x21mm 3.5g
    IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG; radiate and cuirassed bust right.
    SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding snake
    RIC Vii Rome 67
     
  4. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't exactly consider the amount of extant silvering great, but considering how quickly it wore off in circulation, it's a great coin, at least in my opinion.

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    Claudius II
    AE Antoninianus
    268-270 A.D.
    Obverse: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG; Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: FELICITAS AVG; Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopia.
    Diameter: 20x21mm
    Weight: 2.9g
     
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  5. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Some years ago I found this coin. I was not feeling very good when I was taken by a friend to an antique show. While there someone told me that this dealer had some ancient coins. I assumed i would find nothing of interest but I was wrong. I found this Xbarb11$ (2).jpg Barbarous radiate probably meant to be Victorinus. that was mostly silvered. I held on to it for quite a few years but a specialist in the coins of the Gallic Empire really wanted the coin and so I sold it. I posted it because it was so unusual thus THIS is NO LONGER MY COIN.
     
  6. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    That one is spectacular, Victor. Wow. In your collection?
     
  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, it is currently in my collection.
     
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  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    My best (alas, only) Victorinus is this one with a combination of surface silvering and shiny billon composition.
    Victorinus RIC 118 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG

    An unusually silvered example is this Claudius which tends to lose all the silver in short order.
    Claudius II RIC Antioch 212 (2020_11_18 03_38_31 UTC).JPG
     
  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Great coin svessien! I really enjoy the color contrast of these:
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  10. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

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    Aurelian

    Augustus, A.D. 270-275
    Billon Antoninianus
    Cyzicus mint
    Obv: IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG
    Rev: ORIENS AVG - Sol, standing left, raising right hand and holding globe in left; captive at feet
    XXL in exergue
    RIC 360
    22mm, 3.8g.

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    Diocletian

    Augustus A.D. 284-305
    Bronze Nummus
    Treir mint, A.D. 301-305
    Obv: IMP DIOCLETIANVS AVG
    Rev: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI - Genius, modius on head, naked but for chlamys hanging from shoulder, holding patera and cornucopiae
    PTR in exergue; S in left field, F in right
    RIC 582a
    26mm, 7.7g.

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    Maximinus II ("Daia")
    Caesar, A.D. 305-309
    Filius Augustorum, A.D. 309-310
    Augustus, A.D. 310-313

    Bronze Nummus
    Antioch mint, A.D. 312
    Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG
    Rev: GENIO AVGVSTI - Genius, modius on head, naked but for chlamys hanging from shoulder, holding head of Sol and cornucopiae
    ANT in exergue; ✳ in left field, S in right
    RIC 164b
    22mm, 4.7g.
     
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  11. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    Nice specimen @svessien . Your Victorinus ( Cunetio 2518) is from the 2nd issue, officinae A. My top silvered is from the third issue, with a different bust: draped on left shoulder (Mairat 587):

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  12. Choucas

    Choucas Well-Known Member

    Nice coins here, Victorinus is not easily findable with a full silvering.

    Here is a nice Gallienus that has most of its silvering left. You do not often see fully silvered ant from this issue.
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    Gallienus - Antoninian, Rome, 2nd officina (267-268)
    Obv. : GALLIENVS AVG /
    Rev. : LIBERO · P · CONS AVG | B
    Göbl 713b ; RIC 230 ; Cunetio 1341
     
  13. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    Very interesting coin @Terence Cheesman . No doubt about the barbarous origin, especially when looking at the lettering (vvvvvvvv...), but the observe bust seem to be from an official die, from Marius or maybe early issues of Victorinus. No wonder why your friend wanted it so much !
     
  14. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Lots of nice silverd samples here. I see that my coin is far from unique. Does anyone have a Tetricus in this condition?
    @Ocatarinetabellatchitchix , my old Victorinus is the same type as yours, I think. Not much silver left on that one:
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