Some do and some don't, it's purely hit and miss because they don't always have them. Specifically, what rolls is that you want ? If you want the new coins, which is all the dealers are going to have if they have any - go to a bank and get your own.
I do that, but there are no '09 nickels and dimes to be had will they show up later I have never tried buy rolls other than boxes to search and those are mixed.
I would love to have and open a few OBW rolls of Franklins. I've only even seen 3, and they were way outta my price range.
What makes you think they were original bank rolls ? And please don't tell me you think they were unsearched. edit - I guess I should qualify that a bit. To me an original bank roll is a roll of coins rolled by a bank when the coins were all newly issued and completely uncirculated. And that roll has never been touched or opened since the day it was rolled up.
I guess I have a lot more to learn. I am honest and if I said I had Rooster that could plow all I need is somebody to hold him while I put the bits in beak. That being said I guess I give people to much credit for being honest and if they say OBW I would expect that but I guess if you had a crimper you could open them check them put them back in and make them look original. I guess I will just buy them from the bank at face and know they have never been opened. I hate not being able to take things for what they are but I guess that is the world we live in.
Most of the coin magazines and Ebay have roll crimpers for sale. Open , check, re-crimp. Would you believe that paper tube counterfeiting, artificial aging, is increasing also? Your best hope is finding a honest roll dealer, and they won't be cheap compared to most. Jim
I was the one that bought an advertised 'first one offered' 2009 "d" roll on ebay a few weeks ago. The seller sends me 2006 d roll. I wasn't real happy. You should've heard the excuses. Got my money back, but one coin would've sold for what I paid for the 25 coin roll ($150). So, no "d" yet.
I have the same definition, originality being the key. I know they exist. I heard about a guy recently who searched an OBW 1953S roll, and made an NGC 63FBL (I guess this was about a year ago?) - it sold on Teletrade recently for $5k. I guarantee no one had searched that roll before. Rolls of Franklins didn't used to be all that hard to come by, so I've heard. This was due largely in part to the great coin roll boom of the late 50's and early 60's, before the crash. So many rolls of Franklin's were stored away - which is why they are so common in uncirculated today. Many Franklin's have very low mintages, less than 10 million (and more than a couple closer to 2 million).
Bad form bigal. You don't have enough posts to make such an offer....and in the wrong forum too. Kindly look at the rules......
Sorry about that. I'm new to this forum (just joined today) and stupidly didn't read the rules first. Thought it was an open forum. Mea culpa. I will go back and read the rules. Sorry. Thanks, BigAl.
I picked up a few rolls of Morgan dollars a couple of years ago from a dealer/collector. He has several hundred rolls. Most are from the same bank. After buying three closed rolls, things changed. He wanted to open them before selling to check for high grades. Then a relative of his got involved and nothing else was sold.
Many dealers sell OBW rolls, not all OBW rolls are OBW rolls though! Many dealers sell OBW rolls, not all OBW rolls are OBW rolls though! Before about 1998 if you bought a OBW roll you had about a 80 to 90% chance of recieving one now about a 30 to 40% chance. Today when I buy an OBW roll it is usally from a dealer at my show or a roll or group of rolls that someone brought to the local dealer friends of mine. Even with that I suspect many have been contrived and without the dealer in question knowing it. I will not buy any of eBay because I suspect 90% of those have been faked esp. the ones of wheat cents showing an Indian on the end - you got to know those are re-rolled and have been searched. There is also big named dealers (some out west) where they all have been searched each and every time. The more possible value any given roll might contain the more likley that roll has been searched. There is probably not one 1969-S or 70-S Lincoln roll availible on todays market anywhere that has not been serrched and re-rolled. Soon to be true for every 1992, 1999 rolls also. My rule of thumb is "every roll has the possibility of having been searched" - "you never know what you are going to find" (even true unsearched OBW rolls may be a BU coin or 2 on each end and the rest circ. cents), "just because it is a true OBW roll does not mean you are going to find anything at all", and finally when you buy any roll of any kind, "you pay your penny and take your ride". There are many ways to tell if your OBW roll is original but you are going to have search a few thousand before you know what that is. The earliest Lincoln OBW roll I have ever seen is 1935 - I have seen many OBW rolls of Jefferson's, Roosevelts, and Washinton Quarters but they were all dated in the late 1950's or early 1960's. I have searched many also - I have never seen an original roll of Franklins, Mecury's or any silver dollars - I have never seen a original roll of Indian's. I have searched approx. 10,000 OBW rolls in the past 15 years.
nesvt - shotgun rolls didn't even exist until the '60s and even they were quite scarce. So I doubt that roll was original in any way. But it's possible. That said, I can remember going to bank and buying silver dollars. I can remember buying rolls of silver dollars. Yeah, sometimes you got uncs but most of the time you didn't. Back then silver dollars were routinely kept in the teller's cash drawer - loose, just like all the other change. There were of course times when the drawers ran empty. Then they would send a guy to vault and he'd return with a bag of them. Sometimes an unopened bag, sometimes an opened bag. But you never knew what you were going to get, it was pure luck.
Don't know. The seller is in his 90's and claimed he picked them up a bank in NY during the 60's. They were all marked from the same bank in Brooklyn NY. Don't know how/when/who rolled them. From a variety standpoint, one roll contained 20 coins from the same die pair, the other two rolls were close (about 18 of the same die pair). I sat there one day and opened up a dozen or so rolls with him. Some of the end-roll toners were nice and some coins were higher grade, which led to me getting no more closed rolls. He keeps them all in ammo boxes.... dozens in each box and dozens of boxes.
