2002 P Canadian 50-Cent Coin with Die Flaw?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by RylanBrissette, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. RylanBrissette

    RylanBrissette Junior Member

    Hello Everyone,

    I bought this coin several years ago, and I was wondering if this is a known Die flaw? Wish I could take a better photo, but hopefully these 2 will do. As you can see there is some sort of flaw on this coin, near the queens mouth.

    Can anyone give me more info about it? Is this flaw known, how many are there, and what would it be worth?

    Thanks for any help,
    Rylan
     

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  3. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Looks like a mild struck through. Unless of course it's glue.
     
  4. RylanBrissette

    RylanBrissette Junior Member

    Well it isn't glue, it may be difficult to see on the photos I provided, but it is clearly an indentation into the coin.

    Thanks for your reply :)
     
  5. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    I couldn't tell from the pictures if it was raised or incuse. I would say then it's a struck through.
     
  6. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Looks more like a mild lamination then a strike through of course that's just my opinion.
    JC
    JC Oh I edited again I just can't make my mind up
     
  7. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    I'm assuming that this is the mark in question.
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  8. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Yes that's right in my opinion I think it'a planchet problem. I have seen many with that kind of impression.
    JC
     
  9. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector


    Lamination errors appear like peels or cracks on the coin. That's why I say it's a 'struck through' not a 'strike through'.
     
  10. RylanBrissette

    RylanBrissette Junior Member

    Yes that is correct, I bought this coin from "The Bay" probabaly in 2002 or 2003. FYI "The Bay" is a store owned by the HBC.

    Any ideas what this coin might be worth? If the value is somewhat minimal I might just end up keeping it for my collection.
     
  11. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Not in all cases There doesn't have to be a peeling effect with a planchet problem.

    JC
     
  12. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Yes, that was my take as well...I need a closer picture to see more detail. Something worth noting on this coin--the "P" mark underneath the bust denotes a "multi-ply plated steel" issue. In other words, several layers of nickel and copper cover a steel core to fight corrosion. In this context, a lamination error is unlikely since the outer layers are plated onto the coin. That possibility can be eliminated at least.
     
  13. Jorgy

    Jorgy Junior Member

    Looks like a struck through to me.

    And hey even a queen has to spit sometimes, just call it the "Spitting Queen" variety..:rolleyes:
     
  14. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    Try taking a pic w/ it out of the 2x2. Take your pic at an angle to give us a better perspective. :eek:hya:
     
  15. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    It's a minor struck through grease error. It is not a variety or die variety. It is not uncommon and an anomaly like that can be anywhere on any coin. It is not a flaw with the die.

    It is also not as suggested, a lamination error. And it certainly can't be a planchet error as it would have been obliterated during the strike and the metal would have spread evenly over that area.

    It is simply, as mentioned a very minor struck through grease error with no premium value as this is very common.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  16. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I think better pics are needed to determine the real nature of this problem.I have to say that it sure doesn't look like a struck through grease error. Now this is just my opinion
    JC
     
  17. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    It this is has a gouge of sorts in the field, then I would like to know how that would happen. I have seen it on some Washington State quarters before and wondered how it happened. I would like to see it closer and at an angle if you could.:eek:
     
  18. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    Pretty sure that's a struck through and nothing else.

    Wexler has some pictures of 2009 Lincolns with various errors and some exhibit struck throughs like this (http://doubleddie.com/1936.html).

    When found in a roll, sometimes there are two or three with a similar small struck through indention. When viewed under a scope you can see the indention alter form and it will change location with each strike until it is gone. I don’t have time to take pictures of example right now, but I can try later…
     
  19. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    With the evidence shown it's really hard to call this anything but a struck through.
     
  20. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Grease on the surface of a die has hydraulic properties under high pressure. The grease acts like a solid when the coin is struck and if the spot effects the field, as it does in this case, there will be a small depression left behind after the strike.
     
  21. just coins

    just coins New Member

    You would see some signs of grease on the surface of the fields near the image a smooth texture.
    JC
     
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