Rotated Reverse

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by BadThad, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    How much of a premium are these worth? This one is a solid EF-40:

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  3. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    It doesn't look like it has been rotated too much, maybe 10 degrees. I doubt that adds much of a premium.
     
  4. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    That's no more than 20 degrees ccw. Just past the allowable. I would think it wouldn't add any more value to your nice ' 28D'. Please crimp down those staples. That makes my OCD act up. zeke:mad:
     
  5. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    I hear you Zeke! I always use my pliers to flatten down the bottoms of the staples. That way they don't catch on the top of the folder page. :bigeyes:
     
  6. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Thanks, I didn't mean to be a pick. I don't have an album or a box yet so I just stack mine, yes, bad-oo. I gotta break down and get nice boxes.
    Hope you get many more comments on your '28D'. I am no expert that's for sure but lincolns are my present coins that I collect.
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    the photos are to dark to tell
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Those a flat clinch staples. Doesn't matter for me anyway, I use binder pages.....so relax. :D
     
  9. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    It is well with in mint tollerance for the day.

    It is well with in mint tollerance for the day.
     
  10. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    A little lighter pic. pretty nice.
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  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Thank you Rock!
    I think 15 deg is when a TPG will note rotated die.
     
  12. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    I have been trying to find out what rotated lincoln cents might be worth but cannot come up with any info. It's like they don't exist as a variety error. Very hard even ito find them in variety lists. Yes, I know value is in the degree of rotation but show me the value in $$$. Ain't none.
    Has anyone sold a die rotation coin lately? zeke
     
  13. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    I've sold several lincoln cents with rotated dies, two of them being 1924D. The buyers seem to care less about the rotation, only the date and mintmark they were interested in...
     
  14. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    That's why I posted this. I'm a hardcore Lincoln collector but I have no idea about these rotated dies and there's nothing on the internet or in any books I have.
     
  15. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I think it depends on the buyer, a error collector would be more interested in the rotation while a date/MM collector would be more interested in the date. Now, with a 1924-D being a "semi-key" date...I doubt either would be willing to pay a premium for a rotated die. Error collector's are interested in the error and won't want to pay more for a key date and Date collector's what their key(ish) dates to be as perfect as possible and won't pay a premium.
     
  16. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    There is a site which show many coins with there rotation and their rariety in ' R ratings'. I think this site needs updating and not all owners have submitted their coins. There is some one on this forum with a 1994 lincoln cent with a 165* CW rotation and a 1994 lincolm cent with 165* CCW rotation. I have only the 1994 lincoln cent with 165* CCW rotation.
    Check this site http://www.rotateddies.com
     
  17. weasle94

    weasle94 Junior Member

    I have a kennedy and the reverse is rotated about 40% any value to these things .
     
  18. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Hi weasle94. Usually die rotation has to be 45* or more to even start thinking about added value. The most desired die rotations are 90* and 180*and even then it depends on the rariety of them in that particular year and denomination. See the link I put up above you to check out what you have. Hope you find lots more because it looks like Kennedys have many die rotations.
    Here's my one and only find. 165* CCW zeke
     

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  19. weasle94

    weasle94 Junior Member

    Depending on which way you go it is out looking at the reverse 2.00 o'clock position clockwise I do not know how they calculate the azimuth on coins . Thanks Weasle 94
     
  20. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    It is easy. You know that you hold the obverse(heads side) facing you, holding it with thumb and forefinger with each hand on the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clck positions. Now gently turn in away from you until the eagle(obverse) is facing you. That's doing a 180* flip. If the obverse is tilted you have a die rotation error. Rotation is always taken with the obverse being rotated. Otherwise total confusion reigns. Next is if the eagle tilted to the left, that CCW.Tilted to the right is CW. No rotation is greater than 180*. Using your judgement, estimate the degree of rotation until you get a rotation measuring tool.
     
  21. weasle94

    weasle94 Junior Member

    Well with that I guess I am about175 Degrees.I will put in a scan tomorrow.Thanks weasle
     
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