Need help with coin ID found metal detecting

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by P. K. H., Mar 13, 2021.

  1. P. K. H.

    P. K. H. New Member

    Just joined the group to get an ID on a coin I found while out metal detecting. I have tried and tried to get an answer, but haven't got it. Here is what I got. ~25mm copper coin with what looks like King George or Edward on it, maybe even Napoleon III. Has wreath on back along diameter and maybe crown or star at top. Found in Central PA at abandoned early 19th homestead. Would really appreciate an ID. Thanks,

    Unk Edward or George.jpg Unk Edward or George 2.jpg
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Nice coin and find.Its some kind of british/England coin i think and it looks like king Edward on the obverse to me.
     
  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Napoleon III came to mind to me.
     
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  5. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    My guess is that it is a French 5 Centimes of Napolean III. The portrait of Edward VII points to the right as opposed to the left.
     
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  6. P. K. H.

    P. K. H. New Member

    I thought the same but diameter is wrong.
     
  7. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    The beard does look like Napoleon III
    25 mm for the 5 centimes matches your diameter.
    France 1862 5 Centimes Napoleon III copy.jpeg
    Edit: Here's a side-by-side image at about the same scale.
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    Last edited: Mar 13, 2021
  8. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    ^^^I'm not familiar with this napoleon,seen and learned something new.
     
  9. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Yes but this coin had a reverse wreath. Closest I found was a jeton from germany
     
  10. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I've changed my mind. I think it looks closer to a 5 Centesimi of Vittorio Emanuele II. The beard is straighter than on Napoleon III, whose beard tilts forward. Size is 25 mm and it has a wreath on the back with a star at the top.
     
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  11. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Well, it would seem I made a mistake.
     
  12. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Here we go, some comparative photos:
    Left: your find Center: 5 Centesimi Right: 5 Centimes
    There's not a lot of detail left, but your coin looks like a good match to the 5 centesimi to me.
    o2.png r2.png
     
  13. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    I was looking under Italy on Numista and didn't come up with anything. I actually have one of those in my collection :oops:
     
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  14. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Superb detective work, sir!
     
  15. P. K. H.

    P. K. H. New Member

    That is def it. Thanks. I was close...just not close enough. Really appreciate it.
     
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  16. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Well at least it got tentatively identified as a LMU - Latin Monetary Unit, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Romania, Italy and Spain had their currencies unified in value and this monetary union lasted until WWI. It was a precursor to the euro and other countries had their currencies fixed in value to the LMU, Poland, Russia and Venezuela did. The US mint experimented with patterns based on the LMU.
     
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