1968 D lincoln cent dropped element?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Avery G., Mar 7, 2021.

  1. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Thank you for the pictures, I appreciate it, they'll work. The size and shape are very similar, drops have dark areas and this "anomaly" is dark, new errors are discovered all the time, ergo, you got it. If that's your rationale, here's what you want to read: https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/die-fill-responsible-for-errors-seldom-found.html.

    This is PMD, there's no question about it, now. Let me just end with this on your dark area. Those areas occur from the part of the dislodged grease chip that retained its shape when they struck the planchet. In the link provided, that would be the entire B, right at the beginning of the link. So much for the dark areas in your anomaly. They neither mimic the shape nor the size of the dropped device. Rather, that's just a dark area. Ergo, this anolomy is but corroded PMD. Get a second opinion if you can't deal with it, there's your next move.
     
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  3. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    The key as I see it to prove that you have a dropped filling/element, you need to establish what device/design element you believe it is from. Then you need to be able to overlay that portion of the design element on the subject area. I personally don't see a design element for your anomaly to mimic. I also believe that I can make out from your earlier photos that material is displaced. This would not be the case if this occurred during the coining process. The field would be flat around the incuse mark. Displacement suggests spread of material post the minting process. And the shape, which looks like a rhombus, is something a nail tip would leave. Your pictures would need to be a click or two better (for the affected area) to tell more (from my perspective).
     
  4. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    What do you think members have been telling you!!!!

    Unbelievable! Send it in for authentication along with your bisecting cracked die/subsided die from the other post.

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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Because it looks nothing like a dropped element. Like this coin does, which is not mine.
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    IMG_5430.JPG Notice the D in INDEPENDENCE.
     
  6. Silverpop

    Silverpop Well-Known Member

    let me be blunt and to the point ok

    you have post mint damage nothing else nothing more, just a common damaged penny, no error, nothing special, just worth 1 cent
     
  7. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I can except all those comments. Thanks guys.
     
  8. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    From this forum, I learned what a dropped element is. But can you explain what is meant by "retained or not"? I don't know what that means. Thanks.

    Question: Why black/dark? Is it from the metal debris that was dislodged? Thanks. Also, the result, whether black/dark or otherwise is always incused, right?
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If the dropped element remains embedded in the coin, it is "retained". Take a look at my earlier examples from the 1980 Lincoln cents. You can see some of the debris still embedded in the coin. In some instances, it has fallen out.
     
  11. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Thank you... I wasn't sure if "retained" meant if the dropped element was embedded in the coin, or remained on the die (if that's even possible).
     
  12. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    ;);)
    Retained pertains to the specimen. Sometimes it’s a delamination, a foreign object, or the impacted ‘grease’. Most objects struck through are not retained but when they are, value notches up.
     
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