1969 lincoln cent major die break?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Avery G., Mar 6, 2021.

  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Have you ever seen a die crack that looks like that? Why is the coin a different color on both sides of the line going across the line?
     
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  3. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Rather a bold statement if I do say so. Now THAT is a crack!
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

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  5. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    I’m with staining. Given the wear on the jaw and cheek bone I would expect “crack” to be flatter across the face if raised.
     
  6. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I cleaned the coin to see if it was the stain causing the line. It is not the discoloration. It is a break, maybe in the beginning stage. Here is another pic,
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Please show us any crack that has smooth lines like this. Don't think you will find one.
     
  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Looks like a clean stain now.
     
  9. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    When a die has its first break, is it dramatic in the beginning? Or does it gradually get worst with each strike? I'll have someone check it out in hand. Thanks.
     
  10. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    It looks raised and a bit wavy to me. I'd wait for more specialists to chime in. Good luck
     
  11. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    May have even been etched by something acidic on the "clean" side of the coin. It just doesn't have the look of a crack at all, and there would be no reason for the coin to be a different color on either side of a crack.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Bingo.
     
  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Cracks in a hard metal like tool steel tend to be jagged and irregular. The gentle curves on your coin isn't what you would expect from the metallurgy.

    However, it's not unreasonable to believe that whatever caused the environmental discoloration left a light ridge either by corrosion or residue.

    Don't you think it's strange that the discoloration goes right up to the "crack"?
     
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  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Who cleans a coin to find out if it has a crack? That should end this right there.
     
  15. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I do. Thank you very much!
     
  16. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    If the argument has to do with the stain, get rid of the stain. Make sense to me.
     
  17. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    You've received responses from members that are very knowledgeable of the minting process, errors/varieties, chemistry, and metallurgy. It's your choice if you choose not to believe the information.

    So far, nothing you have presented is a convincing explanation that you have a die crack, IMO
     
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  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    You violated the cardinal rule, dude. Just to make a point to a bunch of strangers. You asked what we think and we said it. Now we think you don’t know what in the world you’re doing.
     
  19. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I will end with this, a bi-level die crack could explain the difference in color since one side of the crack has sunk below surface. If you don't address my question with an educated guess, then I'm inclined not to except your response. It's not personal, I'm still learning.
     
  20. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    It appears as the bottom half of the coin at the crack is sunken slightly.
     
  21. norantyki

    norantyki CoinMuncher

    Your second set of photos have pushed me 100% to stain caused by some sort of corrosive substance - the lines are too fluid for a crack, and there appears to be some evidence of pitting on the darker side.
     
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