GTG 1938-D Jefferson Nickel (PCGS)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lehigh96, Mar 1, 2021.

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Guess the Assigned Grade (PCGS)

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-63

  3. MS64

  4. MS65

  5. MS66

  6. MS67

  7. Other (Please explain in comments)

  8. FS (Full Steps)

  9. NOT FS

  10. + Grade

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What were they smoking? Are you saying there is a lusterless area on the reverse? I can't see it. Are you sending it back for another look?
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

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  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I haven't decided yet, I'm still angry about the grade so I'm gonna wait till I calm down and can make a rational decision.
     
  5. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    :rage:

    What a shame for a stunner like that. We also still don’t know their opinion of the steps.
     
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  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Yes, it basically forces me to resubmit, but considering that PCGS absolutely brutalized me with regards to the FS designation last submission, I might as well send them to NGC. The only reason to use PCGS is their leniency on FS, if they are going to grade the same way as NGC, I will just use my preferred grading company.
     
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  7. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Not that it matters, here, now, but even if it is/was a "wheel mark"...especially one of such obvious insignificance and nothing to do with either the appearance of the coin or anyone's attempt to clean or otherwise alter, etc. a coin...why would such a wheel mark render a coin ineligible for a straight grade...??? And moreover, why should collectors...let alone new collectors...have to know all the little subtleties and ins and outs of how different TPGs grade all the different years and different varieties of coins in order to base which TPG is more or less lenient on this or that from another TPG...? That's the ridiculous aspect of it all. Regardless, it is what it is, and agree with "ridiculous"..."crazy"..."insane"...all too subjectively nit-picky to reject this Jefferson for a legit/straight grade.
     
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  8. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Jeez. I was going to say 67+ FS.
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Collector's really don't need to concern themselves with the "ins and outs" of TPG grading, but dealers absolutely do. The "ins and outs" of strike designations are a product of the fact that the TPGs often have different standards with regards to strike designations, with NGC almost always being more conservative.

    As for this particular coin, I agree that the wheel mark no grade is "ridiculous," "crazy," and "insane."
     
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  10. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    IMO, for things like Full Steps, Full Torch, etc., their should be an industry standard that all TPG's would agree to. A collector buying a Jefferson certified as Full Steps should be able to know what's he/she's getting regardless of the grading company.
     
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  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    This coin has become the bane of my existence. I have submitted twice, once to PCGS and now again to NGC. Both grading services detail graded the coin for a wheel mark that I simply cant see. At least NGC narrowed it down and has told us it is on the reverse. We need to scour this coin and find this damn thing before I lose my mind.

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  12. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Nice! My war nickels have the same toning. Not sure what a wheel mark is but is it the area over/around "CENTS"?
     
  13. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    I remain 67 not FS
     
  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What does this area look like in hand? The area below CE of Monticello and around cents looks like it might be the area in question.
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