Help with Taiwan date

I found what I believe to be a Taiwanese coin today in the 25cent bin at my local coin shop. I just need some help with the date, is there anyone out there who can read the dates of Taiwanese and Chinese coins? I would also like to know the denomination of the coin, I have taken a picture of it next to a U.S. quarter for size reference. Also, was 25cents USD a good deal for this coin? Or is it quite common? Thanks.

-rexesq

 

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If I'm not mistaken, year 31 would translate it to 1942. That's not bad for a quarter. Most people would have lost a quarter at least once in their lives.

 

Your coin is not a Taiwanese coin, but was issued by the Republic of China , when it was ruled by the Nationalists under Sun Yat-sen.
It is in Krause as C#362, 50 cents (1/2 yuan) and the date is 31. (The 31st year of the republic = AD 1942).
Krause gives a catalog value of 1.50 $ for F and 3 $ for VF, so it seems to me you had a good deal.

bart

 

The first modern Taiwanese coins were issued in 1949.However,there were Taiwanese coins issued prior to 1895,including some of the silver dragon coins as well.

Aidan.

 

The coin shop I visit has a massive bin full of coins from all over, It's full of wheat cents, steel cents, British and Canadian large cents and coins from just about every other country in the world. I have actually found some great Victorian Canadian large cents, and even a couple of silver coins, a Russian 1913 10 kopek , and even a Liberia 1960 25 cents, which has .1499 oz pure silver, all for only 25 cents a pop...actually alot of them were only 20 cents...since it's 25cents each or 5 for a dollar. Great coin shop, really cool owner and employees. I don't know if they knowingly put a couple of silver coins in there from time to time to liven things up, or if it's just accidental that they end up in there, either way, I like it.
Back to the Sun Yat-Set coin...So its a 1/2 yuan from 1942, great. It's made out of nickel right?

 

Rexesq,that Chinese coin is actually depicting Chiang Kai Shek,not Sun Yat Sen.

Aidan.

 

Okay. I see.

 

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Republic of China dating begins in 1912, following Dr. Sun Yat Sen's January 1 declaration that the revolution had succeeded and the Empiress' rule had ended. That system continued when Chiang Kai Shek'f forces were driven from the mainland to Taiwan based on the Nationalist Government's claim that it was the legitimate government of all China. The Communist People's Republic, however, adopted the western calendar for coin dating.

 

So...it is made out of nickel?

 

No, it is struck in copper-nickel.

 

1911 is starting year of the Republic. Currently is year 98 in Taiwan!

 

Please stop posting that erroneous information in multiple threads, especially threads that have been closed for years!

The Republic was founded in 1912 which is Year 1, so although 1911 must be added to the Republic year to get the western year, 1911 is absolutely, positively, certainly not the "starting year of the Republic".

Although Sun Yat Sen declared the Republic on January 1, 1912, it's didn't acquire even nominal control of the government until February 12, 1912, the date of the Last Emperor's abdication.

Sun Yat Sen's election as first Provisional President was shortly superseded by Yuan Shi Kai's takeover after he traitorously led his Imperial Army over to the rebel side.

True, because 2009 is the 98th year after 1911.

 

1911 is taken by both mainland China and the Republic of China in Taiwan as the beginning of their governments and even though it might not correspond with historical events it is the date they use. I have never seen them refer to 1912 and their commemortive coinage uses 1911 also.

 

How about a specific example of a coin claiming 1911 (Republic Year Zero) as the beginning of the Chinese Republic? I don't recall ever seeing one in my 50+ years of collecting coins.

 

Are you sure its not the year 13 instead of 31... Japanese coins you read left to right, Chinese I don't know. Traci

 

Yup. The character for year is in front of the portrait's nose, at the left end of the legend.

That only applies to those dated Showa 24 (1949) and later, along with some of those dated Showa 23 (1948). Prior to that time date legends were in the traditional Chinese/Japanese script order, reading from right to left.

Chinese coins have never reversed the pattern, and those dated in Chinese characters, to this day, read right to left.

The quick way to verify which direction a date is written is to look for the character 年 ("nen" in Japanese), meaning year, which is always the final character of a date written in Chinese characters.

 

I have one cioin in mine for 2001 as Republic year 90 as the 90th anniversary with dates 1911-2001 printed on the front! "Republic of China Prosperious Country 90 year Anniversary" printed on the face. Issued by Taiwan Government and currently in circulation. Perhaps no coins or paper money were issued in 1911 and I'd suspect that 1911 is taken as year 1 and not year 0 in the Chinese tradition of beginning at birth as 1 year old and not zero and dynasties beginning with year 1 and not zero.

 

I give up. I will simply ignore your posts from here on in.

I simply can't figure out a way to reconcile your world in which

• 1911+1 = 1911
• The Chinese Republic began the year before it was declared, and
• The Empire ended the year before the Emperor's abdication

with the one I live in where

• 1911+1 = 1912
• The founders of what became the Kuomintang declared their Republic on January 1, 1912, and
• The Emperor abdicated on February 12, 1912.

So far as the 2001 Taiwanese coin goes, it isn't the first time in world history that government publicists made exaggerated claims.

 

Best thing is to ignor my postings. Suggest you also do a google search for 1911 Rebellion for more information. You can have your opinion about this and I can have mine.

 

Thanks Hontonai, this clears things up for me. Traci )