1939 Monticello double ?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Siggi Palma, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Hey eveyrone,

    Just wondering if you think this is doubled Monticello on this 1939 nickel.

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    Siggi :thumb:
     
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  3. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    Looks like machine doubling to me but wait for the experts to chime in.
     
  4. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    it is from die deterioration. Or fatigue, whatever you want to call it. I have one very similar that Ken Potter, Fred Weinberg both have looked at and came to the same conclusions.
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Hi Siggi,

    I would favor die deterioration myself as it doesn't look like die #1, or die#2. Here is a link to the die #1. Dies #2 , the last "O" in monticello is oval or egg shaped.

    http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t46461/

    Jim
     
  6. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    Thanks for the link! :smile
     
  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Is FIVE CENTS doubled too? Both Monticello and Five cents are doubled. I post a picture of a MS-65 double in a few to use as a reference Paddy
     
  8. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Paddy the five cents is not doubled so It would be Maschine Doubling. THanks everyone for you help :)
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1939 WDDR-001 Nickel

    Class lV ,offset hub doubling extremely strong spread to the west shows FIVE CENTS < MONTICELLO and slighly on the upper letters of U.S. a slight CW pivot at 12 o'clock Cross reference l -R-lll,FS # 5-22,Breen 2665 Rarity = RARE . I hope you can click on this picture to see the doubling. PCGS MS-65 Paddy
     

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  10. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Thank you Paddy, But what I can see is the only doubling is the monticello and on jefferson. No other letters seem to have any doubling.

    Siggi
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Siggi, There is some doubbling on the words United States the FIVE CENTS will make you feel like you are seeing double for sure! Glad I could be of help...I have seen several like yours in my time. I always thought myself at first they were DD. And maybe a break down of the die making the words look more mushy than doubled. But keep looking one never knows what one might find in change etc. I always pick up a coin I see. After I heard of the time in NYC that they used a 1909 S VDB as bate on a side walk and also paid for a soft pretzel with an 1937 buffalo nickel 3 legger! YVW Paddy
     
  12. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    It is Machine doubling. The "C" in "MONTICELLO" is the giveaway on this one. the doubled "C" would be doubled to the east as the rest of the letters do. This one has the self-like appearance the the west which would indicate MD. It also has die-deterioration causing the letters to actually have a "floating" appearance to them.
     
  13. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Those who said that it was not a doubled die are correct.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    There was a gorgeous 1939 Jefferson Nickel DDR (Doubled Monticello) that just sold in the Los Angeles Sale. Here is a close up of the reverse so that you can see the difference between your coin and the DDR along with a link to the auction.

    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1128&Lot_No=373

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    And no, I did not buy it. But I did buy lot #374.
     
  15. just coins

    just coins New Member

    What you have is a mixed bag die detrioration and MD on your coin.

    JC
     
  16. rockdude

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  17. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Oh, I had better ad this.

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  18. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Nice coins... what was the price of the 1939 DDR ? I'm not a member of Hertage group...and can't pull up the price ...Thanks I believe I paid 1300.00 for my PCGS MS-65 but it's not full steps....Paddy
     
  19. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    Why can't you join Heritage?
     
  20. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    I'm seeing some very beautiful war nickels! They are my favorite.
     
  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I just never have open auction account to buy or sell.
     
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