1886 o fake toneing or real

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by kevinslack, Jul 25, 2009.

  1. kevinslack

    kevinslack silvereagle

    is this real toneing, i dipped it in acetone but it didnt change it. if real what would it be worth.
     

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  3. This is definitely artificial toning.
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    OMG that is hideous.
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    At. Ugly at.
     
  6. Unless you can get someone to pay a premium for this coin, I would say it's only worth about melt value.
     
  7. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

  8. Irespire

    Irespire Senior Member

    Pretty poor artificial toning job.

    Usually, 'crayon' colors, especially when combined with a cleaned coin indicate artificial toning.

    http://myworld.ebay.com/baobaocoins168/

    This seller provides a huge number of examples of artificial toning (hint: he's a scammer). Some is harder to detect, though. But basically, you should still see the luster through it, and it should not be opaque.
     
  9. kevinslack

    kevinslack silvereagle

    i bought the coin for $75.00 i guess i will dip it in coin cleaner to see whats under the A.T
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    What is sometimes more shocking than the bright colors, are the feedbacks where I notice buyers with large feedback numbers themselves, and when you detail it, they seem to be experienced in buying coins, and the majority of his buyers seem to just love them. It will be hard to get them off ebay without rejections from the buyers. Which leads me to think that not many of them are on a major coin forum and surely not a CT reader.

    Jim
     
  11. Irespire

    Irespire Senior Member

    I would return it ASAP.
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Kevin, if you are going to dip it, I would use a very dilute dip so I could watch the reversal of the coloration. If you write them down as you go, you can catch a thread over at the "other" forum by Sunnywood on progression of toning colors ( a little different than what many of us first learned) and see how yours differs if any.

    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=708296
    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=708592

    Anyone who is interested in AT/NT or just the process itself, these threads are WELL worth reading a couple of times.

    Jim
     
  13. kevinslack

    kevinslack silvereagle

    well i dont have to worry about the coin, the guy who lives beside me gave me $100.00 for it. i told him that i was told the toneing was A.T but he said he like it. so hes happy am im happy. what luck.
     
  14. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    If you have to ask on a coin like that (which is so blatantly artificially toned), you'd be much better off studying and learning, before spending money on toned coins.
     
  15. JHXHD

    JHXHD Metal Detectorist

    Aww man that thing is nasty!!!
     
  16. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    Wow you really got off easy for a mistake like that. Before you buy any more coins, look at some toned coins in TPG slabs. Check heritage and ebay for photos.
     
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Or without any searching, view my albums here on cointalk.
     
  18. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That is a perfect example of the Greater Fool Theory in action.

    That is very good advice. Buy the book before the coin.
     
  19. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    I find this Coin Forum great for all kinds of info!
    I was wondering about coins that have been in cardboard albums for some time, they usually have a brown ring around them, I thought it may have been a reaction to/with the acid in the cardboard holders.
    I thought that detracted from the appearance & value. Is this wrong?
     
  20. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Looks like it was blowtorched .
    rzage
     
  21. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That is an example of album toning and, unless it really hurts the coin's eye appeal or has damaged the coin, is generally acceptable. Sometimes, if the toning is especially attractive, it can add to a coin's value.
     
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