1962 D penny with rpm

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  1. Bradford Adams

    Bradford Adams Active Member

    I'm going to clean it up really good get my marco camera out today so we can really see
     
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  3. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes, the 1962 Denver mintmark style was the same at the start of 1963. The DDO listing has a 1963 mintmark style and while the OP's coin is a bit cruddy, it looks to be a 1962 mintmark style. The new photos that are coming should help confirm which MM we are looking at and whether there's an RPM involved.
     
  4. Bradford Adams

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    See if these are better pics 20210217_144230.jpg 20210217_144220.jpg 20210217_143031.jpg
     

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  5. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    "Yes" means I am missing something?
     
  6. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes...the 1962 MM was used for a period (short as I recall) to start the 1963 production. If memory serves, the 1963 Denver MM was used for some 1962 production making it a transitional cent...if you can find it. But don't quote me on that...it's been a while since I hunted any coins, especially cents.
     
  7. Bradford Adams

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    So this is a 1962 with 63 mm
    DDO 001 so the mint mark variety will be listed under 1963 am I correct on that
     
  8. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    First thing - the pictures are still too blurry, but it does look like there may be a split upper serif on the mintmark. Keep in mind that for most of us, super magnified photos aren't necessary and generally make photos harder to take in focus. An in focus photo that doesn't magnify as much is probably a better picture to take and post.

    So you have a 1962 D with a 1962 style mintmark. It may be an RPM. Better, less blurry/magnified pictures will probably prove the RPM out and help to assign an attribution to it.

    Robert speculated that it might be this: 1962-D DDO-001 (varietyvista.com)

    If you click on the hyperlink, it sends you to a photoset at Variety Vista for that DDO. When you get to the photos of the date and mm, you will see the 1963 style mintmark...different font than your specimen. Because the two are different...your coin can't be the DDO Robert offered it might be. Have a look and you'll see what I mean.

    It appears that 1962-D DDO-001 (varietyvista.com) is an interesting coin to have since it's a DDO and it has the rare 1963 style mintmark. Periodically, the mint changes Obverse and Reverse designs, including mintmarks. As I recall, the punches used to set the mintmarks were wearing out...so someone reached for a punch that was designated for 1963. So, in theory, someone used that punch to finish out the 1962 D production. In 1963, both the 1962 and 1963 mintmark styled punches were available. Eventually, only the 1963 mintmark punches were used (it corrected itself eventually).
     
  9. Bradford Adams

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    I have about 10 rolls of that year that I know that they were bought in bank rolls in the 1965 I think but they have never been gone through....I got them in a inherited from a large estate but if I find anything I think might be interesting ill post them....trying to get a better camera in the process
     
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  10. Bradford Adams

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    This 1962 d is the other one I found that I thought might be a error 20210217_192115.jpg 20210217_191949.jpg 20210217_192204.jpg 20210217_192115.jpg 20210217_192115.jpg 20210217_192115.jpg 20210217_192115.jpg 20210217_191949.jpg 20210217_192204.jpg
     
  11. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Sounds like you have some fun ahead for you. You would be surprised how creative folks have gotten here with their cameras on their phones. I still use an old iPhone 5 to get pictures. It takes a little experimentation and practice, but see how good you can get with the equipment you have before buying anything. Most of the time it ends up the photo-taker rather than the camera. I look at my early efforts: not very good. But they are better now and for the most part, folks here can get by on quick photos. One of the most common errors here: over magnification. It can distort what it is that needs to be seen. Here's a quick setup idea you may want to try. Note how much of the coin fills the screen view and the importance of a flat backing of a proper color.

    screenfill.jpg setupcu.jpg setupcu2.jpg setupws.jpg
     
  12. Bradford Adams

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    I have a samsung but it has 4 camera and a 48 mp marco im trying to perfect it
     
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  13. Bradford Adams

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    Ty very much im sure going to try
     
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  14. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Macrophotography can be overkill for what we do here. But sometimes essential on the more minor varieties. It sounds like your camera/phone will do the trick so experiment with the setup, lighting, backing, diffusing of light, and finding the optimal focal length for your phone. The can in the setup above is pretty optimal for the iPhone 5. It's filled with half dollars for weight and to steady the shot when I tap the button.
     
  15. Bradford Adams

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    I think I just finally got it right ...see if this is any better 20210217_202608.jpg 20210217_202548.jpg
     
  16. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Better...but back out a little more. Back out until the mintmark becomes crystal clear. In this shot, though, we can clearly see that the D mintmark is a 1962 style and not the 1963 style. Now we need to clear up the photo to see if there are splits in the serifs.
     
  17. Bradford Adams

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    How about this one 20210217_203415.jpg 20210217_203415.jpg 20210217_203305.jpg
     

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  18. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I think we might be able to work with these. The extra light helps. Watch the glare. You can diffuse the light a bit with a white plastic bag (don't start a fire!) that will knock down the glare and even out the light.
     
  19. Bradford Adams

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    I won't...lol. this is my other 1962 d penny is it the error
     

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  20. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I ran through the new photos and a few of the older ones. Your coin is well circulated, so some of the circulation wear and damage make diagnostics more challenging. Here is a link you might want to check out. When trying to attribute a coin, sometimes the coin in hand can be positioned in ways we cant through photos. Have a look - 1962d1mm003 Die Variety Information - coppercoins.com
     
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