Sad Situation Indeed!

Good Afternoon CT Members.

Recently there has been much discussion on the subject of EBAY and unscrupulous Sellers and Buyers. This situation extends beyond that venue.

I have had the unfortunate experience of befriending a CT member with whom I graciously extended an opportunity to him after enjoying a conversation in a forum. Our agreement was not made in the forum chat but rather in private.

I will not call this individual out by name, but will say that he is from the great state of Kansas, and collects both coins and Masonic items.

He has created somewhat of a small financial mess for me. You can piece together the scenario here.

I can only say that I am sad, that even among us here, there is a lack of Honesty & Integrity.

It is up to all of our members to display those virtues and morales.

A few dollars short, a mess to resolve, I implore all of you to do what we can individually and collectively to eliminate this behavior . I love this site.
Many very good and knowledgeable folks here. Lets back that up with honor and integrity as well. After numerous attempts to have him respond with an explanation and plan for correcting behavior was to no avail.
Not a single response from him.

Tom. ( BTW the individual also received the item ) oh well...Live and Learn.

 

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A message which advocates caution, in general, might be of some help. However, if you have unquestionably been ripped off or are being strung along without a reasonable excuse, why not let us know who the person is?

 

Not too sure whether it would be ethical to name the person here in a public forum, but I can see your point to a degree Mark. I am very sorry to hear you were ripped off Coinman.

 

Okay I am ready for the rest of the story!!

 

well Mark, I don't know if I am permitted to do so openly by the rules of CT. IDK.

 

thanks Persian. I am ethical. So, hence no names.

 

me too.

 

Sorry, I don't know the rule about that if there is one. What about consulting a/the moderator to see?

Edited to add: I wouldn't suggest that a Cointalk protocol rule be violated. But if there is no rule against disclosing the information and you are fair and honest about it, as I expect you would be, I don't see anything unethical about it

 

sorry to hear that...should be called out on it.


EDITED - there is no reason to try and post "facts" when you are just guessing.

 

Sorry to hear about the hassle. Hang in there !

 

I agree with Mark. I see nothing unethical about disclosing the name if you have made multiple attempts to correct the situation. However, it should be within the rules...

 

What is unethical about giving a name so others know who to stay away from?
Though I'm sure the slime would just create another account.
Sorry your good nature was taken advantage off.

 

very hurtfull

:whistle:
Sory to see thing's like this happen i say name and shame
Dave

 

I can't stand it!!! hope I don't get into trouble here....he needs to be paranoid

EDITED

 

Since you note that the person received the "goods", you must have the address. I would send a return receipt letter one last time and if received and you have no response in a certain time, say 21 days, then releasing the name would be protecting others on the forum from misdeeds. Thus you are protected from charges in case he may feel he has reasons to not respond, as he may claim harassment. Remember our hosts don't know everyone, and it may appear as a "he said...he said" situation that could compromise the site and they would prefer it not to be public, but I am not speaking for them, but you should ask them by pressing the icon ( little red triangle one in the left box).

Jim

 

thanks. This is why I won't publicly name him in the forums.

 

well you won't have to look far or hard . A skunk always stinks.

 

This is one of the reasons why I like to use paypal. First because I am more worried about a honest mistake with a member - letter gets lost, etc. I like to make sure they get paid first. In both cases the transaction went great. Sorry to hear the about the situation.

 

Very sorry to hear that! I've done a lot of dealings with coin forum members and it's always been a good experience.

I come from a computer background where the various forums use http://heatware.com for buy/sell evaluations. I've tried to get some of you coin folk to use the site, it's definately worth it to provide assurances of integrity. It's really a shame the majority of people trading coins over the internet do not use heatware. Perhaps something like this could have been prevented.

 

How did you arrive at this conclusion ???